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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:17 pm to DabosDynasty
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:17 pm to DabosDynasty
There are all kinds of indications popping up that the battlefield is going to get very hot in the near future.
If Ukraine can weather the Russian offensive and retain enough combat power to counterpunch, then I think Ukraine has a really good chance of driving Russia out of all captured territory, not in Crimea.
If I'm Ukraine, I'm looking to fall back slowly while bleeding the Russians as much as possible. Once the Russians are extended and their combat power is sufficiently degraded, then counter attack.
If Ukraine can weather the Russian offensive and retain enough combat power to counterpunch, then I think Ukraine has a really good chance of driving Russia out of all captured territory, not in Crimea.
If I'm Ukraine, I'm looking to fall back slowly while bleeding the Russians as much as possible. Once the Russians are extended and their combat power is sufficiently degraded, then counter attack.
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Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:35 pm to LeClerc
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Everyone is so quick to blame Obama for all of this but never say a word about Bush's lack of action when Russia invaded Chechnya and Georgia.
Chechen wars were both during Clinton.
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Oh and BTW, I think it was the US that blew the pipelines. Someone needed to force the Germans' hand.
I clearly saw a horrible weld and a welding inspector friend did as well. Hydrate formation would not be the first time it caused a Russian pipeline to rupture
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:41 pm to Darth_Vader
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It’s never mentioned, but the weakness Obama showed in 2014 lead to this war being fought now. I’m not saying Obama should have took us to war. But he totally hung Ukraine out to dry and offered no help other than a few pallets of old army blankets. Putin took note of that. Then when Putin saw the weakness in Washington, both in the Pentagon & White House, during the withdrawal from Afghanistan, he realized his time had come.
You nailed it on both accounts… hung our treaty partner out to dry in 2014… Biden wins WH (assumed to be an extension Obama admin) plus the Afghanistan disaster.
Putin failed to understand the eagerness of US military to change the narrative away from Afghanistan… Putin opened the door and we stormed through it.
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:49 pm to lowspark12
Can't vouch for the source so TIFWIW
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NOËL ???? ????
@NOELreports
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Russia transferred SOBR-units to the Donetsk region to supress riots among Russian troops, especially in Vuhledar direction. Yesterday -like I reported in yesterday's SitRep- Russia attacked Vuhledar but failed, 10 Russian soldiers were captured and a large group died.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:50 pm to lowspark12
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Putin failed to understand the eagerness of US military to change the narrative away from Afghanistan… Putin opened the door and we stormed through it.
I think this is where we falter in analysis of presidencies, certainly myself included. President is commander in chief so our views tend to completely be through that lens vs what’s more likely reality within the massive size and scope of our govt and military.
President legally has the ultimate authorization, but has a stable of military leadership who drive his narrative and influence decision making. Clearly, Biden isn’t all there so current term of leadership would logically be more susceptible to suggestions/demands of leaders beneath president. I think it’s also worth noting that we’re pretty far removed from our presidents having military backgrounds as well, again therefore lending itself to going with suggestions/demands from military leadership.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:54 pm to DabosDynasty
Politico:
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Ukrainian forces are unlikely to be able to recapture Crimea from Russian troops in the near future, four senior Defense Department officials told House Armed Services Committee lawmakers in a classified briefing. The assessment is sure to frustrate leaders in Kyiv who consider taking the peninsula back one of their signature goals.
It’s unclear what led the briefers to that assessment. But the clear indication, as relayed by three people with direct knowledge of Thursday’s briefing’s contents, was that the Pentagon doesn’t believe Ukraine has — or soon will have — the ability to force Russian troops out of the peninsula Moscow seized nearly a decade ago.
A fourth person said the briefing was more ambiguous, but the point remained that Ukraine’s victory in an offensive to retake the illegally annexed territory wasn’t assured. All four asked for anonymity in order to disclose details from a classified briefing.
LINK
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:55 pm to DabosDynasty
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I think it’s also worth noting that we’re pretty far removed from our presidents having military backgrounds as well, again therefore lending itself to going with suggestions/demands from military leadership.
Bush had a military background and it didn't prevent him from making some really bad decisions after 9/11.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:57 pm to GOP_Tiger
It's really obvious that as soon as Ukraine retakes the South, the Biden administration is going to push Ukraine toward the negotiating table. In the end, Ukraine probably isn't going to take Crimea, because the US doesn't want it to.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 1:01 pm to GOP_Tiger
Jake Sullivan is leading the deescalation faction in the BIden administration.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 1:01 pm to GOP_Tiger
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It's really obvious that as soon as Ukraine retakes the South, the Biden administration is going to push Ukraine toward the negotiating table.
I think it will depend on the nature of how the rest of the occupied terroritories are won.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 1:03 pm to Jim Rockford
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Bush had a military background and it didn't prevent him from making some really bad decisions after 9/11.
Dick Cheney was making the decisions.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 1:04 pm to Jim Rockford
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Bush had a military background and it didn't prevent him from making some really bad decisions after 9/11.
That was 21+ years and 3 presidents ago though. Not to downgrade service at any level, but I really meant active duty service which we’ve not had in office since HW left in ‘92. I was born in ‘90 so basically my whole life we’ve been led by presidents without active duty service.
Not making an argument it’s wrong, just that I believe it does lend itself to being lead by your military advisors more than a president with active duty experience, maybe. It’s an opinion of mine. In this case, Biden, especially so. I personally forget that and do what a lot of people have done and jump to Obama didn’t do this or Biden actually did do this and nobody thought he would without thinking about this dynamic.
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 2/2/23 at 1:19 pm to The Third Leg
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Dick Cheney was making the decisions.
Meh, DoD head Rumsfeld did have active duty service as well as had trained Iranian AF, such as a biz friend's dad an eventual general.
FTR, KBR lost money in Iraq and had to be spun off from Halliburton (Lady Bird Johnson the largest single stockholder) to save Halliburton's bottom line
Posted on 2/2/23 at 1:43 pm to CitizenK
Trump would rant about Putin then call him and tell him
He didn't mean any of it ....I love you VLAD!
Don't release what you have on me!
He didn't mean any of it ....I love you VLAD!
Don't release what you have on me!
Posted on 2/2/23 at 1:58 pm to GOP_Tiger
Really tired of people leaking classified information to the press.... and getting away with it.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 1:59 pm to DabosDynasty
I don't think having a military background automatically gives one a better understanding or enables better decisions outside their specific area.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 2:10 pm to TigersnJeeps
Looks like a large Russian offensive is about to start according to the twitter OSINT channels
Posted on 2/2/23 at 2:57 pm to RLDSC FAN
Ukraine’s defense chief tells partners it won’t strike Russian territory if given long-range missiles
02.02.2023 17:40
As Ukraine needs long-range missiles that will not allow the enemy to maintain defenses and force them to lose, it is ready to coordinate targets with partners.
This was stated by Minister of Defense Oleksii Reznikov, who spoke at a joint meeting of the Ukrainian Government and European Commission, an Ukrinform correspondent reports.
"Ukraine's battlefield success is your success, too. We expect that this year will bring new opportunities... In order to win, we need to seize the strategic initiative," the minister said.
In particular, he called on partners to help establish anti-missile defense capabilities as soon as possible. In this context, Reznikov emphasized the need to get Patriot and SAMP/T systems at the first opportunity, along with more IRIS-T and NASAMS.
"If we had the opportunity to strike at a range of 300 km, the Russian army would not be able to maintain defenses and would be forced to lose. Ukraine is ready to provide any guarantees that your weapons will not be involved in attacks on Russian territory. We have enough targets in the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine and are ready to coordinate targets with our partners," Reznikov emphasized.
UKRINFORM
02.02.2023 17:40
As Ukraine needs long-range missiles that will not allow the enemy to maintain defenses and force them to lose, it is ready to coordinate targets with partners.
This was stated by Minister of Defense Oleksii Reznikov, who spoke at a joint meeting of the Ukrainian Government and European Commission, an Ukrinform correspondent reports.
"Ukraine's battlefield success is your success, too. We expect that this year will bring new opportunities... In order to win, we need to seize the strategic initiative," the minister said.
In particular, he called on partners to help establish anti-missile defense capabilities as soon as possible. In this context, Reznikov emphasized the need to get Patriot and SAMP/T systems at the first opportunity, along with more IRIS-T and NASAMS.
"If we had the opportunity to strike at a range of 300 km, the Russian army would not be able to maintain defenses and would be forced to lose. Ukraine is ready to provide any guarantees that your weapons will not be involved in attacks on Russian territory. We have enough targets in the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine and are ready to coordinate targets with our partners," Reznikov emphasized.
UKRINFORM
Posted on 2/2/23 at 3:02 pm to GOP_Tiger
That’s a lot of words to say he’d do the same thing that Biden is doing
Posted on 2/2/23 at 3:03 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Ukrainian forces are unlikely to be able to recapture Crimea from Russian troops in the near future,
i think once Ukraine gets to the border of Crimea, and the whole of Crimea is in range of Ukrainian long range attacks, russia will be at the table trying to end this war....
otherwise they cant supply it and wont have naval or air that would be stationed there or risk having another "smoking" accident.
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