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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 10/14/22 at 5:10 pm to LSUPilot07
Posted on 10/14/22 at 5:10 pm to LSUPilot07
This could get ugly if/when Xi gets a 3rd term and they give him official title of Chairman.(I read this online)
Supposedly that will fuel the war between russian and Ukraine by helping the Russian side. Also, further cutoff China from the rest of the world Allies.
Supposedly that will fuel the war between russian and Ukraine by helping the Russian side. Also, further cutoff China from the rest of the world Allies.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 5:12 pm to Obtuse1
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This is not a thread you can come into unprepared and make any headway.
Especially if posting about military topics that you know nothing about.
This post was edited on 10/14/22 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 10/14/22 at 5:29 pm to doubleb
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What impresses me the most about Zelensky is that he has been the elected president of Ukraine for less than three years and he has been responsible for decades of corruption in the Ukraine, thd Ukrainian Nazis, dozens of Bio Labs, aiding Hunter Biden, money laundering in Obama’s term, the coup of 2014 and the Russian invasion of the Donbas and the Russian takeover of Crimea.
Not just biolabs but per Russia, Biowarfare Labs which used US military drugs to turn Ukrainians into superhuman soldiers and why 100,000 elite Russian troops were stopped from taking Kyiv
Posted on 10/14/22 at 5:29 pm to LSUPilot07
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Hitler at least had a competent armed forces behind him until he met American industrial power and then it was over but
It was over when the incompetent Germans ran out of gas, and Stalin's rag tag army of outdated equipment and poorly trained soldiers smashed into them. Ironic that Germany is about to be fricked again and they haven't even mobilized this time around.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 5:33 pm to SomethingLikeA
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This could get ugly if/when Xi gets a 3rd term and they give him official title of Chairman.(I read this online)
Supposedly that will fuel the war between russian and Ukraine by helping the Russian side. Also, further cutoff China from the rest of the world Allies.
China will continue to hit it since Putin bent over and dropped his pants for Xi to finally get even after Russians have shipped not up to contract spec on minerals for decades.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 5:35 pm to Lakeboy7
Senior Military Official Holds a Background Briefing on Ukraine
an operational update on what's happening on the ground in Ukraine
and a Q/A on Startlink...
Q: Hey, thank you for your time. Want to take a -- another crack at -- at Starlink. If you could speak more broadly just to the advantage is there has been provided and -- and what might be lost if it is turned off or turned off in some circumstances. And -- and then from a policy perspective, what the Pentagon is doing at this point to kind of address this issue, the concerns that Mr. Musk has raised, et cetera. Thank you.
SENIOR MILITARY OFFICIAL: I'll leave the second one, certainly, to (inaudible). In terms of its employment, I mean, well, I don't think you can overestimate or overemphasize the impact that being able to communicate has. You know, one of the first things you try to do in a fight is to reduce your opponent's ability to communicate, and in this case, you know, Starlink has proven exceptionally effective on the battlefield because it's allowed the Ukrainians multiple connections, and in that regard, has been very, very helpful in their efforts at the tactical and strategic level.
And then I'll pass it to (inaudible).
DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Yeah, thanks, (inaudible). I'm happy to take the Starlink question. The department, along with the Ukrainian Minister of Defense, we've identified the need for a SATCOM capability to ensure stable communications that remain and allow Ukrainian forces to contact or to use.
And we're working with our partners and allies to look at all options on how we can best support the needs that the Ukrainians have right now. And I'm happy to go into more detail on that later.
DoD Transcript
an operational update on what's happening on the ground in Ukraine
and a Q/A on Startlink...
Q: Hey, thank you for your time. Want to take a -- another crack at -- at Starlink. If you could speak more broadly just to the advantage is there has been provided and -- and what might be lost if it is turned off or turned off in some circumstances. And -- and then from a policy perspective, what the Pentagon is doing at this point to kind of address this issue, the concerns that Mr. Musk has raised, et cetera. Thank you.
SENIOR MILITARY OFFICIAL: I'll leave the second one, certainly, to (inaudible). In terms of its employment, I mean, well, I don't think you can overestimate or overemphasize the impact that being able to communicate has. You know, one of the first things you try to do in a fight is to reduce your opponent's ability to communicate, and in this case, you know, Starlink has proven exceptionally effective on the battlefield because it's allowed the Ukrainians multiple connections, and in that regard, has been very, very helpful in their efforts at the tactical and strategic level.
And then I'll pass it to (inaudible).
DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Yeah, thanks, (inaudible). I'm happy to take the Starlink question. The department, along with the Ukrainian Minister of Defense, we've identified the need for a SATCOM capability to ensure stable communications that remain and allow Ukrainian forces to contact or to use.
And we're working with our partners and allies to look at all options on how we can best support the needs that the Ukrainians have right now. And I'm happy to go into more detail on that later.
DoD Transcript
Posted on 10/14/22 at 5:47 pm to cypher
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The department, along with the Ukrainian Minister of Defense, we've identified the need for a SATCOM capability to ensure stable communications that remain and allow Ukrainian forces to contact or to use.
Communication via satellite wont ever be a problem for Ukraine, with or without Musk.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 5:47 pm to LSUPilot07
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honestly the 60 billion or whatever the number is now is a drop in the bucket compared to some of their other ideas like paying back student loans and the green new deal and all these other whack job ideas would cost.
The US is financially benefitting from the war.
- American weapons manufacturers are taking orders from all over the world. The instability in the global order is causing governments all over the world to look at their inventory of weapons and decide to upgrade. American factories are extending operating hours and adding shifts. And guess what? Russia has historically been a big competitor in that market, and they don't have weapons to sell now and no one wants to buy them anyway. There's a big, long-term economic benefit to the US.
- American oil and gas producers are benefitting tremendously from the European gas crisis, as we are shipping LNG to Europe at very handsome profits. This will continue through the winter for sure.
- American farmers benefitted from higher crop prices. Ukraine has historically been one of the world's larger wheat producers, and the difficulties of export and the fact that many farmers are in the army, or their land was the site of battles and couldn't be safely farmed, all meant that yields were significantly reduced.
So, yes, our government is sending money to Ukraine. But, purely on an economic basis, it's a good investment. And that's besides the fact that we've strengthened NATO to the point that we'll need to spend a lot less there in the long term.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 6:14 pm to Obtuse1
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This is not a thread you can come into unprepared and make any headway.
And this is yet another topic you are an expert on. Does your expertise know no bounds? You are a true modern renaissance man.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 6:17 pm to GOP_Tiger
You have almost come full circle in explaining why Capitalist countries are a threat to world peace based on Marxist-Leninist theory.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 6:37 pm to OleWar
$725 Million in Additional Security Assistance for Ukraine
Oct. 14, 2022
Today, the Department of Defense (DoD) announces the authorization of a Presidential Drawdown of security assistance valued at up to $725 million to meet Ukraine's critical security and defense needs. This authorization is the Biden Administration's 23rd drawdown of equipment from DoD inventories for Ukraine since August 2021.
The United States has delivered unprecedented security assistance to Ukraine and will continue to work with allies and partners to ensure Ukraine has the support it needs. This new security assistance package includes:
Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS);
23,000 155mm artillery rounds;
500 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds;
5,000 155mm rounds of Remote Anti-Armor Mine (RAAM) Systems;
5,000 anti-tank weapons;
High-speed Anti-radiation missiles (HARMs);
More than 200 High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs);
Small arms and more than 2,000,000 rounds of small arms ammunition;
Medical supplies.
This announcement follows Secretary of Defense Austin's gathering of defense ministers of nearly 50 countries at the Ukraine Defense Contact Group in Brussels this week, at which leaders committed to providing additional security assistance. Some examples of this additional support included:
Germany recently delivered the first of four IRIS-T air-defense systems committed to Ukraine. This critical donation will help Ukraine better defend its civilians from Russian airstrikes. Germany also recently announced that it will deliver more MARS rocket systems and howitzers.
Spain announced it will provide four HAWK launchers to strengthen Ukraine's air defense.
Norway, Germany, and Denmark invested into Slovakia's indigenous production of Howitzers.
To meet Ukraine's evolving battlefield requirements, the United States will continue to work with its Allies and partners to provide Ukraine with key capabilities.
In total, the United States has committed more than $18.2 billion in security assistance to Ukraine since January 2021. Since 2014, the United States has committed more than $20.3 billion in security assistance to Ukraine and approximately $17.6 billion since the beginning of Russia's unprovoked and brutal invasion on February 24.
Oct. 14, 2022
Today, the Department of Defense (DoD) announces the authorization of a Presidential Drawdown of security assistance valued at up to $725 million to meet Ukraine's critical security and defense needs. This authorization is the Biden Administration's 23rd drawdown of equipment from DoD inventories for Ukraine since August 2021.
The United States has delivered unprecedented security assistance to Ukraine and will continue to work with allies and partners to ensure Ukraine has the support it needs. This new security assistance package includes:
Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS);
23,000 155mm artillery rounds;
500 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds;
5,000 155mm rounds of Remote Anti-Armor Mine (RAAM) Systems;
5,000 anti-tank weapons;
High-speed Anti-radiation missiles (HARMs);
More than 200 High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs);
Small arms and more than 2,000,000 rounds of small arms ammunition;
Medical supplies.
This announcement follows Secretary of Defense Austin's gathering of defense ministers of nearly 50 countries at the Ukraine Defense Contact Group in Brussels this week, at which leaders committed to providing additional security assistance. Some examples of this additional support included:
Germany recently delivered the first of four IRIS-T air-defense systems committed to Ukraine. This critical donation will help Ukraine better defend its civilians from Russian airstrikes. Germany also recently announced that it will deliver more MARS rocket systems and howitzers.
Spain announced it will provide four HAWK launchers to strengthen Ukraine's air defense.
Norway, Germany, and Denmark invested into Slovakia's indigenous production of Howitzers.
To meet Ukraine's evolving battlefield requirements, the United States will continue to work with its Allies and partners to provide Ukraine with key capabilities.
In total, the United States has committed more than $18.2 billion in security assistance to Ukraine since January 2021. Since 2014, the United States has committed more than $20.3 billion in security assistance to Ukraine and approximately $17.6 billion since the beginning of Russia's unprovoked and brutal invasion on February 24.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 6:40 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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Russian law enforcement agencies have started checking Kremlin loyalist Telegram channels that post about Russia’s war in Ukraine for “discrediting” the Russian army, fake news, and other prohibited content, reports publication Mash.
I think the larger issue, and one we need to be watching, is the issues with OpSec that are arising in this war. The idea soldiers are going into the battlespace with unsecured personal cell phones is disturbing and has certainly got people killed. I can't imagine having the E4 Mafia in their fighting positions sexting with Mary Jane Rotten Crotch back home in the middle of a war.
There is a reason Charlie don't surf has been my mantra ever since seeing FMJ. Serendipity also makes it the perfect battlefield mantra for the millennial generation as well.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 6:55 pm to GOP_Tiger
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GOP_Tiger
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The US is financially benefitting from the war.
You are one dumb mother fricker. I would try to explain all that is wrong with everything you wrote but guess what…..it is all some asinine crock of shite! Every single word!
Posted on 10/14/22 at 7:11 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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You are one dumb mother fricker. I would try to explain all that is wrong with everything you wrote but guess what…..it is all some asinine crock of shite! Every single word!
Thanks. It's the comments like this that really make this website worthwhile.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 7:22 pm to GOP_Tiger
The former CIA director believes there’s a 20-25% chance that Russia will unleash a tactical nuke:
But no, now that we’re less than a dice roll’s chance of nuclear annihilation, let’s just keep this up, you fricking lunatics:

But no, now that we’re less than a dice roll’s chance of nuclear annihilation, let’s just keep this up, you fricking lunatics:

This post was edited on 10/14/22 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 10/14/22 at 7:27 pm to notiger1997
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a-hole is back
What, I interrupted your Dungeons and Dragons game to bring you an inconvenient fact?
Posted on 10/14/22 at 7:36 pm to OMLandshark
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I interrupted your Dungeons and Dragons game to bring you an inconvenient fact?
Posted on 10/14/22 at 7:36 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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You are one dumb mother fricker. I would try to explain all that is wrong with everything you wrote but guess what…..it is all some asinine crock of shite! Every single word!
On the US financially benefiting from the war in Ukraine? I don't know one way or the other, but for someone who is as dumb as me can you try to explain the basics of what is wrong with everything he said?
Posted on 10/14/22 at 7:49 pm to cypher
23,000 rounds of 155 mm scared me. That means we are extremely low on our own stocks of them. That is going to be the biggest obstacle that I can see. Ukraine is going to get air defenses from NATO countries and they have enough to spare if they all chip in. But someone is going to have to start ramping up 155 mm production fast. Thankfully they have long range sniper rifles in HIMARS and Excalibur rounds so they have to make the best of those precious weapons because they won’t be able to fire conventional artillery shell for shell with the Russians. There are millions of 152 mm shells in long term storage.. They may be old but Russia is still going to use them.
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