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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/7/22 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 2:59 pm to
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Serious question, does the agreement specify the type and amount of aid to be provided?


That depends because it’s written in legalese. Some international law experts believe it only requires the USA to take the issue up at the UN Security Council. Some international law experts believe it requires the USA to give Ukraine any aid it requests regardless if it’s reasonable or unreasonable. However, most international law experts and the position that the Clinton, GWB, Obama, Trump, and Biden state departments have taken is that the USA is obligated to provide whatever aid Ukraine requires and is deemed reasonable for the situation.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 3:19 pm
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24291 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 3:05 pm to
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The USA has signed an agreement with Ukraine to provide Ukraine with security assistance if it’s territorial integrity was violated and Ukraine asked for assistance. That agreement was approved by both house of Congress and therefore has the same effect as a formal treaty such as the North Atlantic Treaty. Therefore we are legally obligated to provide Ukraine with assistance. So either you were unaware of that or you don’t believe in keeping your word and being trustworthy.


Some posters on the board think somehow the US can pull back and let situations unfold around the world without us. To do so now would be an absolute victory for Russia. And a victorious Russia will over time continue with their plans to do whatever it is they want. That is most likely to fawk up the existence of five or six other countries on their border not counting Finland. As long as Putin is alive we will be dealing with this stuff. It is just getting started. And we all know it is way too late to wish we'd turn tail and run in the opposite direction.
Yet every day we argue these same points over and over and over.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5747 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 3:05 pm to
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However, most international law experts and the position that the Clinton, GWB, Obama, Trump , and Biden state departments have taken is that the USA is obligated to provide whatever aid Ukraine requires and is deemed reasonable for the situation.


I agree, and would like to add that all of the aid that has been provided by the US has been appropriated by Congress with overwhelming bipartisan support.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16152 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 3:13 pm to
It seems that these Putain fan boys crawfish on agreements they make on a regular basis due they don't like the US keeping agreements.

In short, they are already dishonorable males to begin with.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 3:16 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45745 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 3:21 pm to
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Oh for Christ’s sake. It’s funny that you think this is dispositive.


Looks like the white boot cajun believes that crawfishing out of things we agree to without having the balls to formally withdraw is ok.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 3:24 pm
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5747 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 4:24 pm to
Explosions on the Antonovsky bridge across Dnipro river in Kherson!
Now something is burning on the bridge, perhaps repair equipment that was brought for repair after previous shelling.
#Kherson #Ukraine

Twitter

Maybe they need more radar reflectors?
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 4:28 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16152 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 4:26 pm to
White boot Cajuns are far more intelligent than these folks
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16152 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 4:29 pm to
Those reflectors are supposed to keep "eyes" from seeing the pontoon bridges
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:40 pm to
Remember my
Post about the one condition not yet met for a counteroffensive but was being mitigated by some off book stuff? This is the stuff.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:46 pm to
C’mon man not off the books, out of date sounds better.

Can’t let those F16s get shot down.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28812 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 7:00 pm to
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This is the stuff.


Stakes are very high here if true. If this works, this would be a massive power shift on the ground.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 7:02 pm to
Fellow Ukraine live action role players, our hero met with the great Jessica Chastain! Love his glowering sneer as if to say "dont frick with me, I'm 64 inches of dual citizenship (Israeli / Ukrainian) masculinity!"

This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 7:19 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 7:04 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 11:28 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16152 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 7:39 pm to
Putain Putin's fan boys are actually from NYC.

quote:

LINK
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64294 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 7:40 pm to
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Putain Putin


God, are you still doing this shite?
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2882 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:02 pm to
Congress has passed alot of bad legislation with bipartisan support.... and i have misgivings about the apparently open check-book with insufficient monitoring that we have been passing.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8682 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:42 pm to
OMG he took a picture with a celebrity that came to his country! He deserves to be executed at dawn! Get over yourselves. That’s so sorry to make such a big deal over something so small.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16152 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:05 pm to
The first politician in the history of the world to have his photo taken with someone for MONEY. That shite never happens here posed an all with $$$$$ For Trump it was $10k to his campaign to get a photo
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8682 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:14 pm to
North Macedonia is sending 4 of it’s SU-25 ground attack aircraft and 31 T-72 tanks, the entirety of it’s fixed wing air force and tank forces. Most likely they will be refitted with western weapons from a NATO country, possibly some older M1A1 Abrams could be on the table as well as German Leopards.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30708 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:35 pm to
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North Macedonia is sending 4 of it’s SU-25 ground attack aircraft and 31 T-72 tanks


I saw pics of at least some of the tanks on a train a couple of days ago, they had them covered in tarps but the barrel of the gun was visible.
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