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Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:05 am to OMLandshark
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You can acknowledge that Putin is completely in the wrong and feel bad for the Ukrainians, and then question the manner we’re providing support especially in relevance to our own domestic issues.
True
And that’s why we gave the PT board.
This thread was created to discuss the war, war events, strategy, and likely outcome, etc.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:06 am to SOSFAN
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I'm still waiting for all the posters on here, that say we should be sending money to Ukraine, to post their personal checks that they sent.
You are going to keep waiting because it was a stupid statement when you made it the first time, and second, and third and it is still stupid now.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:07 am to SOSFAN
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I'm still waiting for all the posters on here, that say we should be sending money to Ukraine, to post their personal checks that they sent.
I mail my check to the IRS on a quarterly basis. You won’t get pictures.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:07 am to OMLandshark
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You can acknowledge that Putin is completely in the wrong and feel bad for the Ukrainians, and then question the manner we’re providing support especially in relevance to our own domestic issues.
That's what gets me not one of us have shouted support for Putin but anything and I mean anything said on this thread that doesn't kiss Ukraine a** gets you called a Putin lover. They can't debate the issues because they are just sheep
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:10 am to SOSFAN
quote:Because we want to read about and discuss the war without the politics. You are more than welcome to say all your 'murica first, you sheople' shite in the poli board.
That's what gets me not one of us have shouted support for Putin but anything and I mean anything said on this thread that doesn't kiss Ukraine a** gets you called a Putin lover. They can't debate the issues because they are just sheep
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:11 am to OMLandshark
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Genghis and his descendants were particularly good at this.
What are you talking about?
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If he’s at the end of his life like rumors suggest, why wouldn’t he? What does he have to lose? You should definitely think this is not out of the realm of possibility and take it seriously.
So, if you were in a similar position and were facing a terminal disease, you'd use nukes just for the sake of it, knowing full well the consequences?
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But we have had world leaders (and still do) that think this way. What do you think Hitler would have done at the end of the war if you suddenly gave him a nuclear arsenal?
Is he using them in a world where other powers have nukes? Because then he would have absolutely used them in the same situation everyone says they would use them, which is to protect territorial integrity. Otherwise, he'd risk the annihilation of his people. You are pretending that Hitler, or any leader for that matter, doesn't rely on a complicated bureaucracy to execute orders, even authoritarians. This isn't a video game man. You would be asking people to execute orders that could lead to the death of their own loved ones. Do you understand what that would mean? Because it appears you think international politics is like a video game.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:15 am to OMLandshark
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Oh, please. Nuance? Any nuanced view on this thread
You haven't offered any nuance. You have a child-like understanding of things and seem militantly resistant to pretty much everything.
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You can acknowledge that Putin is completely in the wrong and feel bad for the Ukrainians, and then question the manner we’re providing support especially in relevance to our own domestic issues.
But support for domestic issues isn't reliant on aid to the Ukrainians. In other words, if the USG wasn't spending money on Ukraine, it would almost assuredly not be spending money on whatever it is you want them to spend money on. Those are discrete things. They are not directly related to each other. Do you not understand this?
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:15 am to SOSFAN
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:17 am to ruff fish
quote:Me?!
You have some mess in your head.
quote:So you are aware that Putin eliminates threats to his power? And do you not think that Russia has a little bit to do with why Ukraine has been in conflict for 8 years?
You compare the elimination of a political competitor, usually one or more people, with the shelling of an entire region of the country for 8 years in a row, as they claim with their population.
quote:Russia has much more land than any other nation on earth, yet ranks among countries 1/5th its size in production. Yes, most of your land is useless.
I don't understand how it fits in one head.
On the one hand, it is argued that most of the land is useless, on the other hand, that Russia is a world food exporter.
I'm confused about something. How can you grow anything on useless land, extract resources in the form of minerals, forests, etc.?
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:17 am to Palantir
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Because we want to read about and discuss the war without the politics. You are more than welcome to say all your 'murica first, you sheople' shite in the poli board.
Let me just be blunt. You have to be stupid to think this war is not entangled with politics. The whole damn conflict is because of politics. To not discuss it is to ignore 90% of the conflict.
Y'all do know this is a real life situation not a PlayStation game right
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 11:24 am
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:25 am to SOSFAN
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Let me just be blunt. You have to be stupid to think this war is not entangled with politics. The whole damn conflict is because of politics. To not discuss it is to ignore 90% of the conflict.
That is why there is a Political Board to discuss the politics of it.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:28 am to SoonerK
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That is why there is a Political Board to discuss the politics of it.
That's like saying I don't want to discuss the football play calling just the color of the uniform. I think the reason y'all don't want to discuss is because you have no defense for our actions
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:30 am to SOSFAN
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Sure because you can kick back a Tank... idiot
I always wonder what it is like to stumble through life not being able to see the angles on the playing field and being led around by dogma percolating through one's amygdala, your biography would likely devote a healthy portion of the pages to this condition.
Military weapons in most of the world are a fairly liquid asset. It isn't hard to turn them into a bag of 1ct IF diamonds, currency, gold, or a Cezanne. The use of goods transfers to avoid kickbacks or other corruptions schemes is usually disregarded by about 3yo when children learn money can be exchanged for goods and vice versa.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:32 am to SOSFAN
There are no politics in Russia. Hell, they murdered the opposition candidate.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:33 am to crazy4lsu
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:34 am to SOSFAN
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That's like saying I don't want to discuss the football play calling just the color of the uniform. I think the reason y'all don't want to discuss is because you have no defense for our actions
Using your analogy. It would be like a thread about Alabama football uniforms and you getting upset because they are not discussing the play calling in the Alabama-Auburn game.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:34 am to SOSFAN
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That's like saying I don't want to discuss the football play calling just the color of the uniform. I think the reason y'all don't want to discuss is because you have no defense for our actions
It's more like we are following an ESPN GameCast and there are people upset that there is even a game at all.
I think being mostly forthright with how much the US is spending is a vast improvement over the last 20 years or so of foreign policy decision-making. My view is that the foreign policy apparatus would be involved in this regardless, as they have been in the Post-War era. The difference being here we actually have a hard number to discuss and in the other theaters, we don't.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:37 am to OMLandshark
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You can acknowledge that Putin is completely in the wrong and feel bad for the Ukrainians, and then question the manner we’re providing support especially in relevance to our own domestic issues.
You guys keep spouting this bull shite line like the US is incapable of tackling two issues at the same time… and acting like you give a shite about our “issues” domestically.
Just say what you think… that you don’t want tax payer money spent on international OR domestic “issues”… then all you sanctimonious twats can go troll another thread.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:38 am to crazy4lsu
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