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Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:32 pm to crazy4lsu
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:35 pm to doubleb
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None
Sometimes I wish I too was naive about reality.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:36 pm to SOSFAN
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If you kept up with the discussion going on you would have seen where other posters said you can separate politics from the war discussion so I was simply saying thank you for saying it was about politics.
Mainly, it never seems to move further than screeching about the money aspect and then calling people sheep. That's literally all there is to that side of the argument.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:36 pm to TutHillTiger
It was not about oil ore else that would be all for the USA, not what happened.
Because everyone wants to see some manufacturing complex for chemical weapons the size of a major refinery when in fact they are tiny is why the idiots can claim none existed.
I get the whole yellow cake thing without ability to turn into nukes, but chemical agents manufacturing where there, and even here in the USA at least in one location near San francisco.
Because everyone wants to see some manufacturing complex for chemical weapons the size of a major refinery when in fact they are tiny is why the idiots can claim none existed.
I get the whole yellow cake thing without ability to turn into nukes, but chemical agents manufacturing where there, and even here in the USA at least in one location near San francisco.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:37 pm to OMLandshark
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This thread is a circle jerk of warmongers,
Certain types of passive aggressive people just hang on to the crowd. Its so much safer than thinking independently.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:39 pm to SOSFAN
agreed about news media but it is both sides. The Russian state media is far worse. Some of it is Bennie Hill skit worthy
Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:41 pm to CitizenK
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The Russian state media is far worse
I doubt it.
Russian media is pathetic, so is ours. Sadly, ours isn't "state controlled" and this is just willful ignorance to make the very average person feel good.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:41 pm to crazy4lsu
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Mainly, it never seems to move further than screeching about the money aspect and then calling people sheep.
Otherwise known as the financial war machine. Explain your reasoning for America to continue sending billions of dollars to Ukraine while ignoring the needs of the American citizens. We are sending billions and encouraging a country that will not win and will continue to lose thousands of life's and property and morons on here continue to cheer for it. How y'all cannot see that you're being used in the propaganda side of the war is head scratching.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:43 pm to CitizenK
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The Russian state media is far worse. Some of it is Bennie Hill skit worthy
I totally agree with this. What everyone is ignoring is the posters on here that don't go with the Ukraine flow are being called Putin supporters when none of us have been supporting them at all. We hate Russia too but we hate the fact that our government is using it's citizens and Ukraine to push their agenda.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:45 pm to OMLandshark
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I’m just saying that’s my line where I’d get behind what most of this thread is saying and advocating for.
For me, this is just a temporal difference. It's not a question of now or never, but just a question of when. In the grand scheme of things, the Russo-Ukrainian war is a smaller-scale conflict that can serve as a way of mitigating a potential large-scale conflict, which would be disastrous. If nothing can be done to assuage Russian security concerns, then any conflict is at Russia's behest. The implication that Russia's security is more important than the security of states that were formerly in their sphere of influence means armed conflict, regardless. That isn't anyone's fault but the Russians. No one forced Poland, for example, to join NATO. That joining the EU and NATO means likely security and economic prosperity should be instructive for Russia. They are driven by an outdated view of the world which puts extreme emphasis on Russia as a land-power, but the dynamic has changed completely, and control of the Eurasian corridor isn't as meaningful as it once was.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:45 pm to SOSFAN
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when none of us have been supporting them at all
Yep, I have no love at all for Russia.
However, the spin on this war is so fricking bad it has to send up red flags. Too much money to be made IMO>
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:46 pm to SOSFAN
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Explain your reasoning for America to continue sending billions of dollars to Ukraine while ignoring the needs of the American citizens. We are sending billions and encouraging a country that will not win and will continue to lose thousands of life's and property and morons on here continue to cheer for it. How y'all cannot see that you're being used in the propaganda side of the war is head scratching.
Do you think that we would be spending that money on US citizens on some immediate concern if not for Ukraine? Is that what you really think?
Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:48 pm to crazy4lsu
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you think that we would be spending that money on US citizens on some immediate concern if not for Ukraine? Is that what you really think?
Do you really think the money we are sending to Ukraine is all being spent to help the war effort. Is that what you really think?
Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:49 pm to SOSFAN
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Do you really think the money we are sending to Ukraine is all being spent to help the war effort. Is that what you really think?
Answer my question first, and I'll answer yours.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:49 pm to SOSFAN
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This post was edited on 6/18/26 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:50 pm to SOSFAN
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Explain your reasoning for America to continue sending billions of dollars to Ukraine while ignoring the needs of the American citizen
Ignoring the needs of American citizens, how so?
Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:51 pm to OMLandshark
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It’s absolutely ridiculous. When asked how long Americans can expect to be paying sky high gas prices, Biden just yesterday said “ As long as it takes, so Russia can not in fact defeat Ukraine and move beyond Ukraine.”
Hey SPOILER ALERT everyone:
It’s not happening. Russia will defeat Ukraine. Whether it be tomorrow, next month, or next year, Ukraine will fall to Russia. But hey let’s spend another hundred billion dollars on this war when we’re in a world of shite domestically.
So we don't send Ukraine anything and then what happens?
Posted on 7/1/22 at 12:52 pm to SOSFAN
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Do you really think the money we are sending to Ukraine is all being spent to help the war effort
I don't think anyone is that stupid. But I have a feeling I am about to be surprised.
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