re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

While to graphs show Europe as the top destination, it is interesting that contracts are about 50/50 with European and Chinese traders for the permits on newly approved terminals about to be built.

The contracts are not with any nation but instead with trading companies well ahead of determination of destination.

Back in the early 80's it was like that with Petroleum Coke. A German steel company had a contract with Citgo Lake Charles for 3/4 of its petcoke, which made them the largest shipper of petcoke in the world for a few years. The vast majority went to Livorno Italy mostly for use in firing lime kilns to make cement

Isw update

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active air combat.
Key Takeaways

Ukrainian sources stated that the coming week will be decisive for Russian forces to complete the capture of Severodonetsk and that Russian forces will focus troops and equipment on the area.

Ukrainian sources confirmed that Russian forces control all of Severodonetsk with the exception of the Azot industrial zone, where fights are ongoing.

Russian sources are likely setting information conditions to justify slow and unsuccessful advances towards Slovyansk from the southeast of Izyum and west of Lyman.

Russian forces are likely intensifying operations to interdict Ukrainian lines of communication along the T1302 Bakhmut-Lysychansk highway in order to support escalating operations in Severodonetsk-Lysychansk.

Russian forces continued to focus on resisting further Ukrainian advances north of Kharkiv City towards the international border.

Russian forces are continuing defensive operations along the Southern Axis.

Ukrainian partisan activity is continuing to complicate efforts by Russian occupation authorities to consolidate control of occupied areas.

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Why wait for Ukraine to have deployed Harpoon missiles…seems like poor timing on Russia's part.

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They’ve done a lot that seems almost too stupid to not be intentional imo. Not saying that’s the deal, but at some point it’s hard to believe certain folks are just that stupid.

A very very very wealthy man once told me that you can never lose money underestimating the ignorance of the American public

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The way some on the right have taken up the cause of a retread Soviet empire ruled by a former KGB middle manager is a sight to behold. Their ideological forbears wouldn't know what to make of it.

Not all on the right; surely not most. But the fraction is significant and it consists of some of the most hard core.

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I thought the same thing with Obama’s reset, the approval of the uranium mine sale to Russia, getting caught on a hot mic pandering to Putin, and that the 80s called joke in 2012 was ignorant and pandering to his base and growing left’s power within Democratic Party. It’s same Russia and Putin then as now, but any concerned was laughed at by liberals and the left.

I have stayed fairly consistent on my mistrust of Putin and Russia (and China for that matter), but that doesn’t mean I agree with the exponential increase in US funds going to Ukraine that started in March to basically double up what the rest of world is contributing to Ukraine. I don’t think we have enough controls over some of the money. I also don’t like just handing over weapons at borders with little ability to track them. Too many in Libya and Syria got in the hands on enemies in past, and we just left $7 billion in military equipment for the Taliban. I doubt $40 billion aid package in May will be the last aid package passed or get smaller in size when September comes around.

When I check places that liberals say right wingers and conservatives are supporting Russia or taking up cause for Russia I see mostly the same the concerns along with concerns over Biden’s mental capacity and motives. I doubt that in regards to conservative support of Russia the “fraction is significant and it consists of some of the most hard core” unless you are incorrectly including those just have concerns about Biden, the money, the weapons, and some on Ukraine leadership and culture with all this aid. Those who do this constantly in this thread are no different than what they keep saying about those on PB.

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quote: “Not all on the right; surely not most. But the fraction is significant and it consists of some of the most hard core.”

It makes you wonder doesn’t it?

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Nope. Why wonder about stuff made up on the OT??? It’s the OT.

You my friend are a thinking conservative, I am so sorry for that. We aren’t wanted anymore and are distrusted now even more than the liberals, because we are not idiots, and are interested in results not bullshite. We are in fact the most dangerous people on the ducking planet, and an endangered species.

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I wonder how many times in this thread you have showed up to white knight for the politard board.
Are you worried or something that some of you may get mis-labeled? LOL

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And then you asked me to go away but then I see this and know you want a response.

I actually go and see if some of the crap said here is true or not. When it’s not true I come back and say so.

What’s wrong with verifying posts on this thread especially when they are used to make broad generalizations about all conservatives.

I probably have less posts on PB than posters here complaining about it. In fact past 2 or 3 months pretty sure I have mostly gone to the board to find out if what’s posted on thread is accurate which when I have looked has not been the case.

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The way some on the right have taken up the cause of a retread Soviet empire ruled by a former KGB middle manager is a sight to behold. Their ideological forbears wouldn't know what to make of it.

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It would be a lot easier to root against Russia if Ukraine wasn't a POS country to.

British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 21 June 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE

On 17 June 2022, Ukrainian forces claimed their first successful use of Western-donated Harpoon anti-ship missiles to engage Russian maritime forces. The target of the attack was almost certainly the Russian naval tug Spasatel Vasily Bekh, which was delivering weapons and personnel to Snake Island in the north-western Black Sea.

The destruction of the Russian vessel on a resupply mission demonstrates the difficulty Russia faces when attempting to support their forces occupying Snake Island. This is the latest in a series of Russian vessels, including the cruiser Moskva, to be damaged or destroyed by Ukraine during the conflict.

Ukrainian coastal defence capability has largely neutralised Russia's ability to establish sea control and project maritime force in the north-western Black Sea. This has undermined the viability of Russia's original operational design for the invasion, which involved holding the Odesa region at risk from the sea.