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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:05 am to StormyMcMan
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:05 am to StormyMcMan
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Russian occupants in #Mariupol prohibit children from speaking Ukrainian in schools, threatening that “there will be consequences” for them and their parents if they hear someone speak Ukrainian. That’s on top of removing all Ukrainian books, and introducing a Russian curriculum
LINK
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:06 am to StormyMcMan
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#Izyum Axis - It is confirmed that #Ukrainian forces bridged the Donets River in the vicinity of Protopopivka & are operating in the forests W of Izyum. We have not seen evidence to support the Izyum City Council statement that Zavody, Spivakivka & Prydonets'ke were liberated.
LINK
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:07 am to StormyMcMan
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#Kherson Axis - #Ukrainian forces have launched a counterattack aimed at pushing #Russian forces back to Kherson. Russian & Ukrainian sources both confirmed that #UAF is attacking Pravdyne, towards Tomyna Balka and along the Mykolaiv - Kherson Highway. Artillery duels continues.
LINK
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:17 am to SOSFAN
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They are surrounded by people that want to make them obsolete yet they still stand so yes it has saved their country.
They do it because they do not have the demographics to support a volunteer army. And their foreign policy is based on explicit US-support, which makes them overextend themselves, especially with Likud's buffer state dream. Without US support, they would have to be more circumspect, as they put themselves in positions where they face larger, well-equipped foes, such as competing with Turkey in the Eastern Med, because the IDF isn't built to be an expeditionary force. Their large-scale extra-territorial actions have not fared well since the 1980's. They are buttressed by US-support, the same as the KSA, not the fact of conscription.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:35 am to SOSFAN
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Basic training in America is 8-10 weeks then if you have an "A" school to attend that's another 6 weeks. They would still have another 1.5 years out producing in the military.
Do you realize how much it would take to train all the 18 year olds in the USA if you spend 6 months training them? Countries like Israel can do it because their population is smaller. Countries with large populations like the USA can afford it or find the space and equipment to train all the 18 year olds for 6 months. That is why countries like Russia, India, and China only train their conscripts for 2-6 weeks.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:36 am to RLDSC FAN
The link below is an excerpt from yesterday's press conference where General Milley shares his thoughts on the artillery situation both Russian and Ukrainian.
Youtube - Milley artillery answer
Youtube - Milley artillery answer
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:37 am to RLDSC FAN
Is the Ghost of Kiev still patrolling the airspace? Ukraine winning and taking over Russia any day now.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:40 am to dstarsntigers
Go away. We had a whole two pages of pretty good updates and then you pop in with this low IQ crap.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:54 am to Jim Rockford
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Then there's morale, esprit de corps, whatever you want to call it, and that includes a fitness standard that's higher than the average guy on the street. Obviously it can and sometimes does get taken to absurdity, but someone who joins the military ought to want to be a cut above. Even if they're just manning the tech support help desk.
Agree. I call it just pride in yourself, the uniform you wear and the mission it represents. There really isn’t a reason JAG officers need to pass a physical fitness test. But I would be fairly upset if those ever went away entirely. I firmly believe it’s hard for a person or organization to compartmentalize standards of conduct.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:56 am to StormyMcMan
I like this guy on YT
Speak the truth
Pro-Ukrainian but points out where Russia is successful as well.
Also I go here for a 30kft view of things..
WarNewsUpdates
Speak the truth
Pro-Ukrainian but points out where Russia is successful as well.
Also I go here for a 30kft view of things..
WarNewsUpdates
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:56 am to dstarsntigers
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Is the Ghost of Kiev still patrolling the airspace? Ukraine winning and taking over Russia any day now.
Why y’all so upset? Just want to know if our hero, the Ghost, is still dominating the airspace and shooting down a dozen Russian planes/day? Slava!!!!
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:57 am to notiger1997
Yet they won’t get off their arse and help them with equipment and ammunition and continue to buck the sanctions they supported. My guess is Macron and co wants peace and giving eastern and parts of southern Ukraine to Putin and bring what’s left into the EU after it’s been raped and pillaged of what makes it an attractive addition to the Union.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:58 am to DabosDynasty
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I just believe everyone in service should maintain physical readiness. I get the tech/drone argument, but wouldn’t it make more sense to adjust requirements specific to those jobs vs the rest? Our greatest geopolitical threat, which is now very clearly China, ain’t got a bunch of doughboys running around.
There’s way more to military than your standard infantry role
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:03 am to WeeWee
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Do you realize how much it would take to train all the 18 year olds in the USA if you spend 6 months training them?
I ran some numbers just for grins. We'd have around 8 million troops doing mandatory service, compared to our current strength of 1.4 million, and 850k reserves. The infrastructure needed would be massive. Even if their pay is quite low that's still a lot of money for 8 million people, as well as their room, board, transportation, and training. And then the real cost is the lost productivity to the economy. The worst part is you cut short careers that are most productive in the last years. My best estimate is it would knock at least a trillion dollars per year out of our economy. And you end up with a military that is full of people who don't want to be there. It's a really terrible idea.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:05 am to Palmetto98
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There’s way more to military than your standard infantry role
If the point is preparing for the worst, in the event of a large scale war it would be a whole lot easier, physically, to bring in civilians who are severely unfit for duty to fill the tech based and other support roles and shift the physically fit from them to action in theater. Any sort of mobilization drive in this country in current state of health and fitness is a problem.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:23 am to DabosDynasty
quote:France, UK, US, Russia, China ,etc.... all gave Ukraine security assurances when they denuclearized in 1994 & guarantees that Ukrainian sovereignty would be respected. Here we are again with France leading the way by asking Ukraine to give up something again.
Yet they won’t get off their arse and help them with equipment and ammunition and continue to buck the sanctions they supported. My guess is Macron and co wants peace and giving eastern and parts of southern Ukraine to Putin and bring what’s left into the EU after it’s been raped and pillaged of what makes it an attractive addition to the Union.
How many years before Ukraine is asked to give up even more? Ukraine should probably just make their stand now & not totally trust these nations that have betrayed them once already.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:27 am to RLDSC FAN
Ukrainian general threatens to use Western kit to destroy bridge linking Russia to Crimea
A top Ukrainian general has threatened to use Western weapons to blow up a bridge linking mainland Russian to Russia-occupied Crimea.
Maj Gen Dmytro Marchenko who has been leading the defence of the Mykolaiv region in Ukraine’s south since the start of the war, told the Krym. Realii website on Wednesday night that Kyiv considers the 227-metre Kerch bridge a legitimate target.
“This will be our number one target,” he said when asked what Ukraine would do with the new advanced weapons it has been seeking from the West.
“We have to tear this umbilical cord to cut off (Russian) reinforcements. As soon as it’s done, (Russians) will panic.”
Originally published by the Telegraph
Yahoo News
A top Ukrainian general has threatened to use Western weapons to blow up a bridge linking mainland Russian to Russia-occupied Crimea.
Maj Gen Dmytro Marchenko who has been leading the defence of the Mykolaiv region in Ukraine’s south since the start of the war, told the Krym. Realii website on Wednesday night that Kyiv considers the 227-metre Kerch bridge a legitimate target.
“This will be our number one target,” he said when asked what Ukraine would do with the new advanced weapons it has been seeking from the West.
“We have to tear this umbilical cord to cut off (Russian) reinforcements. As soon as it’s done, (Russians) will panic.”
Originally published by the Telegraph
Yahoo News
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:31 am to Athanatos
quote:To still be free to make these constant, embarrassing criticisms, Girkin must have photos of Putin in bed with a goat. Or worse, as we know the dirt on Vladimir is deep.
Igor Girkin is still dumping on Putin for not ratcheting up the war.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:37 am to DabosDynasty
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If the point is preparing for the worst, in the event of a large scale war it would be a whole lot easier, physically, to bring in civilians who are severely unfit for duty to fill the tech based and other support roles and shift the physically fit from them to action in theater. Any sort of mobilization drive in this country in current state of health and fitness is a problem.
Unless we are invaded by Aliens, the US home front faces absolutely nothing to this scale.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:40 am to cypher
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Ukrainian general threatens to use Western kit to destroy bridge linking Russia to Crimea
They probably have to do this logistically don't they?
Because
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“We have to tear this umbilical cord to cut off (Russian) reinforcements
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