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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:31 pm to
Posted by DabosDynasty
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:31 pm to
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So did you serve?


Nope, does that mean I’m not entitled to opinions on the matter? If you’d been here longer than today you’d have also seen me directly ask those who have their opinions on stuff I’ve shared in updates to the war.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:35 pm to
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Nope, does that mean I’m not entitled to opinions


You're absolutely right. I feel strongly about that. That's why I joined the military so you would have that freedom.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:40 pm to
I certainly consider him as such. He will be 92 in Mid August, he doesn't get around very well anymore but he's still going, he's a tough old guy.

Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:41 pm to
As did both my grandfathers, two uncles, father in law, and brother in law.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:48 pm to
My personal opinion is everyone should have to spend 2 years in the military after turning 18.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:51 pm to
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Ive been waiting on something to come out of this strategic area for months. I was told June / July at the earliest before we begin to see some movement.


My sauces in Ukraine have been telling me the same thing. They are also telling me to wait. While Russia uses its last reserves to capture Severodonetsk, Ukraine is moving on other fronts. My buddy’s tank company has been redeployed from Kharkiv to Dnipro. He doesn’t know where it will go, but he said it can drive for Melitopol and sever the land bridge to Crimea, drive on Kherson, or head to Severodonetsk. All Russia has in between the Kherson defenses and the attack on Severodonetsk is BTGs remade from broken units and T62s. Only the Russian Air Force is stopping the Ukrainians from blitzing south from Dnipro.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:53 pm to
I truly hope your friend comes through this unharmed.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:56 pm to
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While Russia uses its last reserves to capture Severodonetsk, Ukraine is moving on


Maybe you can answer this since you're more in tune with the conflict...why is Russia so intent to capture Severodonetsk when most reports state that it's destroyed. Is it just pride or is there a military reason for having it?
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:57 pm to
Everything I've read says it has no strategic value at all other than it presents the Russians with a lot of targets in a fairly confined space; however, the inverse is true as well.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:58 pm to
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My personal opinion is everyone should have to spend 2 years in the military after turning 18.


I think there’s a lot of benefit to that, but that’s not what we have and not the path I chose for multiple reasons. Have a lot of respect for those who chose to and am worried about recent changes just that I’m aware of externally for folks choosing it now or still in.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:00 pm to
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Maybe you can answer this since you're more in tune with the conflict...why is Russia so intent to capture Severodonetsk when most reports state that it's destroyed. Is it just pride or is there a military reason for having it?


Severodonetsk is the only part of the Luhansk oblast that the Russians don’t have full control of. Putin thinks if he can secure the Luhansk oblast, he can propose a ceasefire or peace deal that France and Germany will make Ukraine accept.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:05 pm to
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My personal opinion is everyone should have to spend 2 years in the military after turning 18.


That is what Russia does and we see how that has turned out. If a soldier only spends two years in the military then he will spend most of the time in basic training and learning the skills to be a green soldier just in time to rotate out to make room for the next class.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:05 pm to
My son in law in the army is a Battalion S1, personnel officer. He's stationed at Ft. Benning. We speak frequently and when I've asked about "wokeness" he said that beyond the training sessions they have to attend, he has seen no impact from it at all. The reality is there are very very few Trans in the military. My SIL said he wasn't aware of a single one. Now that might change in the future, but I doubt it. 100% of the trans people I've seen in the real world were about as far as you can get from someone who would want to join the army and haul a 100lb ruck 20km.

Have you ever seen a transsexual with the mentality of a Marine? I haven't.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:09 pm to
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China’s president, Xi Jinping, has signed legal orders allowing a trial of military operations beyond China’s borders amid heightened tensions over claims by China’s foreign ministry that the Taiwan Strait is Chinese territorial water.

Official state media reports published this week were light on detail but said Xi had signed orders announcing trial outlines on “military operations other than war”. It said the trials would begin on Wednesday.


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The legal changes would allow troops to “prevent spillover effects of regional instabilities from affecting China, secure vital transport routes for strategic materials like oil, or safeguard China’s overseas investments, projects and personnel”, the report said.


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On Monday the ministry’s foreign affairs spokesperson, Wang Wenbin, said China had “sovereignty, sovereign rights and jurisdiction over the Taiwan Strait”, accusing other countries which called the strait international waters of making false claims “in order to find a pretext for manipulating issues related to Taiwan and threatening China’s sovereignty and security”.

The US state department spokesperson, Ned Price, told Reuters the strait was an international waterway with high seas freedoms guaranteed under international law. He reiterated US concerns about China’s “aggressive rhetoric and coercive activity regarding Taiwan” and said the US “would continue to fly, sail and operate wherever international law allows, and that includes transiting through the Taiwan Strait”.


The Guardian

I hope the delay strong action by the west/US bought on Taiwan isn’t fading. Sounds a lot like China prepping for the same excuses Putin used to invade Ukraine.

Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15972 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:11 pm to
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That is what Russia does and we see how that has turned


Israel does the same thing and it's saved their country. I used to work with this girl from Israel and she said they all look forward to turning 18 so they could join.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:15 pm to
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Have a lot of respect for those who chose to and am worried about recent changes just that I’m aware of externally for folks choosing it now or still in.


15-20 years ago I encouraged people to join but I would no longer do that today.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:17 pm to
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My son in law in the army is a Battalion S1, personnel officer. He's stationed at Ft. Benning. We speak frequently and when I've asked about "wokeness" he said that beyond the training sessions they have to attend, he has seen no impact from it at all. The reality is there are very very few Trans in the military. My SIL said he wasn't aware of a single one. Now that might change in the future, but I doubt it. 100% of the trans people I've seen in the real world were about as far as you can get from someone who would want to join the army and haul a 100lb ruck 20km.

Have you ever seen a transsexual with the mentality of a Marine? I haven't.




Aside from that, physical fitness test has been changed in other branches, lowering difficulty which is irregardless of the whole gay/transgender deal. Doesn’t exactly seem a smart thing to do.

Of course one could also argue the stupidity of wasting time on this indoctrination and sensitivity training over idk additional targeted training to changing threats or anything else even remotely productive.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15972 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:18 pm to
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will spend most of the time in basic training and learning the skills to be a green soldier just in time to rotate out to make room for the next class.


Basic training in America is 8-10 weeks then if you have an "A" school to attend that's another 6 weeks. They would still have another 1.5 years out producing in the military.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:20 pm to
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15-20 years ago I encouraged people to join but I would no longer do that today.


That’s what I hear consistently from those I talk to. BIL has 6 years left to retirement and says it’s gotten ridiculous but he’s holding on for retirement and it’s hard to blame him after going that far. Wife’s uncle just retired sooner than planned due to the changes. Air Force and army respectively. Got a few buddies who served and have been out a little while, but say the same as you - they wouldn’t encourage someone into service today.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:35 pm to
I assume administration no longer cares other boards are posting here.
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