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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/8/22 at 10:00 pm to
Posted by ned nederlander
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Posted on 6/8/22 at 10:00 pm to
Remind me from what movie is this gif?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/8/22 at 10:12 pm to
The Great Escape
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/8/22 at 10:13 pm to
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??#Russia guarantees that if #Kyiv demines the ports, #Moscow will not use this situation for military purposes - Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov. LINK
well if they promise it then why the hell not
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/8/22 at 10:14 pm to
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Great non partisan citation you ahve there. Abpout as left as one gets except maybe Atlantic or Daily Kos.


Everyone has an agenda, this guy seems to be fairly non-partisan. Also those were quotes from a Ukrainian General, were they not?
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 6/8/22 at 10:35 pm to
That Lavrov guy seems like a straight shooter…
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:11 am to
We all know that the news media takes things out of context when they are not outright spreading falsehoods. the capability of the news media as a whole, be it right or left, to investigate and use actual reasoning has diminished significantly the last 2 decades, especially left leaning, thoungh indie right media is pretty bad too
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:29 am to
LINK

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Pedro Andryuschenko spoke of the newly appointed head of Ukraine’s Donetsk People’s Republic on his official telegram channel where he stated:

“The Donetsk Region’s occupation authorities have rotated. A new head of the occupying government, Russian Vitaliy Khotsenko, has been appointed. This is the first time a direct appointment from Russia to the conditionally senior bodies of power of another state.”

“However, the picture would not be complete without adding that the rotation of the occupying government took place simultaneously with the visit of the first deputy head of the administration of the president of Russia Serhiy Kryyenko.”

“He duly delivered the order and supervised its implementation. Pashilin and Kriyenko then visited Marupol. Importantly, there was neither accompaniment nor participation of local collaborators or of Russia’s handlers Sablin and co.”


Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:32 am to
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Yesterday, near #Moscow, a warehouse at the Zagorsk Optical and Mechanical Plant, which produces military optics for the #Russian army, from binoculars to scopes, was on fire.

??Korrespondent LINK
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:12 am to
Daily Military Update: June 9 - Kyiv Post

UAF: Kremlin Ground Attacks petering out, Severodonetsk sees no assaults

Russian Federation (RF) ground assaults have stopped across almost all of Ukraine and the attacks that are taking place are limited in scale, Ukraine’s Army General Staff (AGS) said in a Thursday, June 9 statement.

The June 9 AGS morning situation estimate said Ukraine Armed Forces (UAF) units observed RF “offensive and assault operations” only at a total of five locations in the Donbas sector. Two unsuccessful attacks took place near the villages of Bohorodychne and Dovhenke, the statement said.

more details within....

Kyiv Post

From the same article ...

Pundits on both sides of the fighting lines said the dramatic reduction in the scale of RF ground attacks in Donbas, and increase in RF reliance on artillery bombardments alone, were largely due to serious manpower shortages particularly in RF infantry units, and increasingly common flat refusals by Russian soldiers to risk attacking UAF positions.

Oleksiy Arestovych, a spokesman for the Ukrainian Presidential Administration, in a televised interview published on the evening of Wednesday, June 8, said the shift in RF tactics was likely to be long-term, because the RF command was unlikely in future to find a way to motivate many of its troops to attack into the teeth of Ukrainian defenses.

Igor Girkin, a Russian military commentator best known as a former mid-level commander of RF forces invading Ukraine in 2014, offered much the same opinion in televised comments, saying low morale and unwillingness to fight have devastated RF units that are needed for the war in Ukraine.

Girkin cited as an example a Rosgvardia paramilitary police battalion which, he said, lost half of its men overnight, because they quit instead of following orders to be deployed to Ukraine. More than 80 officers chose to face criminal charges and risk going to prison, rather than to go and fight, Girkin said.

The problem is widespread across the RF military, Girkin claimed.

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Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:25 am to
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That has been my concern for Ukraine. Can they minimize losses enough that incoming replacement troops have a chance to learn under the experienced guys.


The good news is Russia is likely facing the same thing since they lack NCO’s
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:37 am to
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Russian Federation (RF) ground assaults have stopped across almost all of Ukraine and the attacks that are taking place are limited in scale, Ukraine’s Army General Staff (AGS) said in a Thursday, June 9 statement.


HUGE if true for sure.

I asked many many pages ago about how the morale issues would be seen on the field since nothing outside of random commentary seemed to support it from my non military perspective. This is more in line with what I was expecting to see with morale issues. If this is factual, I hope a major counter offensive starts
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:42 am to
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Pundits on both sides of the fighting lines said the dramatic reduction in the scale of RF ground attacks in Donbas, and increase in RF reliance on artillery bombardments alone, were largely due to serious manpower shortages particularly in RF infantry units, and increasingly common flat refusals by Russian soldiers to risk attacking UAF positions. Oleksiy Arestovych, a spokesman for the Ukrainian Presidential Administration, in a televised interview published on the evening of Wednesday, June 8, said the shift in RF tactics was likely to be long-term, because the RF command was unlikely in future to find a way to motivate many of its troops to attack into the teeth of Ukrainian defenses. Igor Girkin, a Russian military commentator best known as a former mid-level commander of RF forces invading Ukraine in 2014, offered much the same opinion in televised comments, saying low morale and unwillingness to fight have devastated RF units that are needed for the war in Ukraine.


There is NO way this is true dude. We were informed by one of our resident experts that honor and sacrifice are engrained in the Russian DNA and it’s something our military would never understand. Surely this is propaganda.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5758 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:03 am to
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HUGE if true for sure.


Hoping other sources can confirm. We'll see.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42783 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:10 am to
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HUGE if true for sure.


Hoping other sources can confirm. We'll see.


Yes, the smoke will eventually clear and we will see if it’s really happening.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:40 am to
A few of the milbloggers, Trent Telenko in particular, predicted quite a while back that Russia would hit a manpower and logistics crunch by late May or early June, after which they wouldn't be able to conduct offensive operations. If this is true, looks like they nailed it.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5758 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:50 am to
This may be coindence...or not.

From June 6 ISW Assessment...

The information environment in Severodonetsk remains dynamic and control of terrain is likely changing hands frequently as Ukrainian and Russian troops are locked in close-quarters urban combat.[12] Haidai cited intercepted information that Russian forces have been tasked with completing the capture of Severodonetsk by June 10, though no other sources have reported this deadline and ISW cannot confirm it at this time.[13]
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12665 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:31 am to
Looks like Russia will rely on long range indiscriminate artillery shelling for as long as they can.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8683 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:05 pm to
They always do. That’s Russian fighting tactics. Artillery followed by cannon fodder infantry then drop some more artillery not really caring if it hits their own troops or not.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

A few of the milbloggers, Trent Telenko in particular, predicted quite a while back that Russia would hit a manpower and logistics crunch by late May or early June, after which they wouldn't be able to conduct offensive operations. If this is true, looks like they nailed it.



The Pentagon called culmination in mid April, meaning Russia could sustain some isolated offensive capability but it would be a declining effort.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32843 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:10 pm to
For the geeks

Google Earth: Land cover data just got real-time

quote:

To help turn satellite imagery into more useful information for quantifying change, we worked with the World Resources Institute (WRI) to create Dynamic World. Powered by Google Earth Engine and AI Platform, Dynamic World provides global, near real-time land cover data at a ten-meter resolution, giving an unprecedented level of detail about what's on the land and how it's being used — whether it’s forests in the Amazon, agriculture in Asia, urban development in Europe or seasonal water resources in North America. With this information, people — like scientists and policymakers — can monitor and understand land and ecosystems so they can make more accurate predictions and effective plans to protect our planet in the future.


Will be interesting to see how this can be used to follow the war.

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