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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:04 pm to
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I think twitter banning people is dumb, but that tweet doesn’t “point out that some members of the Ukrainian military are actual nazis.”


It got banned for misinformation. The user said that Ukraine was using American artillery to shell the Ukrainian city of Donetsk. Yes Donetsk is a city in Ukraine, but it’s also the capital of the separatist region that refers to itself as the Donetsk People’s Republic. The DPR is also a Russian ally and a major hub of Russia’s GLOC to the middle part of the offensive.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45766 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:05 pm to
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Have any of you non political military junkies seen any evidence of any use of our new advanced weapon systems in this conflict yet.


Check the twatter.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:07 pm to
Lol this is still a thing? Incredible what they can do in movies now a day isn’t it?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45766 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:17 pm to
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It seems the newly-arriving HIMARS are the cure for Snake Island as well.


No the HIMARS are not the cure for Snake Island. They are part of the solution though. The Harpoons provided by Norway and/or the Neptune ASMs freed up by those Harpoons are the other part. The HIMARS destroy the weapons on Snake Island and then ASMs keep it from being resupplied.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:19 pm to
Ukraine won’t be able to retake Snake Island. The Russian dolphins have been deployed there
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 3:20 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45766 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:24 pm to
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Ukraine won’t be able to retake Snake Island. The Russian dolphins have been deployed there


That’s what the other kind of harpoons are for.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45766 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:27 pm to
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France should really be held accountable, they could offer so much help. France is playing both sides.


Aren’t French men famous for playing both sides?
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4668 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:28 pm to
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No the HIMARS are not the cure for Snake Island. [...] The HIMARS destroy the weapons on Snake Island
Yes.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11197 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:58 pm to
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That’s what the other kind of harpoons are for.

Ukraine does not have the harpoon technology to defeat the Russian Dolphins. If they attempt to engage, a lot of Ukrainians are going to end up in some dolphin rape dungeons
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5758 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:21 pm to
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The HIMARS destroy the weapons on Snake Island and then ASMs keep it from being resupplied.


Better be careful though...have to shoot and scoot...

Russians would like nothing better than to destroy a HIMARS and/or Harpoon launcher with a stand off vessel launched Kalibr. Not sure about the Kalibr accuracy - hope it sucks, but it will have greater range than any Ukrainian weapon I believe.

Hope I'm wrong about the Kalibr threat, maybe someone who knows more can enlighten.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:33 pm to
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Brigadier General Oleksandr Tarnavsky


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Tarnavsky described the shift in Russia’s tactics. “If before they simply marched in large columns, now they have started to actually fight,” he said. The Russian Army has split its forces into smaller groups, which it uses, along with a sizable fleet of drones, to identify and target Ukrainian positions, hitting them with artillery and air strikes. When a particular zone or village has effectively been levelled, ground troops—a mixture of regular Russian soldiers, Wagner mercenaries, and fighters mobilized from the Russia-backed separatist territories in Donetsk and Luhansk, Tarnavsky said—move in to try to seize the rubble.


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Tarnavsky also estimated that Russia has an advantage of up to seven-to-one in artillery batteries and a similarly large stockpile of munitions. As a result, Russian forces can rely on wave after wave of indiscriminate fire from large-calibre artillery, along with missile and air strikes, to soften Ukraine’s defenses, inflicting large casualties before they advance.


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Ukraine’s military doesn’t lack soldiers; mass mobilization efforts and an influx of volunteers have doubled the ranks of the armed forces since February. The more pressing shortfalls, Tarnavskiy told me, are of experience and skill. “A lot of regular military personnel have been killed,” he said. “They are replaced by doctors and mechanics. We have manpower, but much of this core”—those with combat experience who could lead and motivate new recruits—“is either dead or wounded.”


Joshua Yaffa - New Yorker
LINK
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16190 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:42 pm to
Great non partisan citation you ahve there. Abpout as left as one gets except maybe Atlantic or Daily Kos.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42783 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:04 pm to
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ng about 1920.


In 1920 Germany was bowing to the demands of the French and English. They weren’t doing much of anything else.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 6:12 pm to
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In 1920 Germany was bowing to the demands of the French and English. They weren’t doing much of anything else.


This made me go look at the history of Ukraine

TIL: Ukraine had a government in exile from ~1920 till 1992 when the 1992 Ukrainian governement voted to recognize the current Ukraine government as a continuation of the exile government who accepted and stepped down.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46533 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 6:22 pm to
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TIL: Ukraine had a government in exile from ~1920 till 1992 when the 1992 Ukrainian governement voted to recognize the current Ukraine government as a continuation of the exile government who accepted and stepped down.



Which is why it's laughable when I see people say Ukrainians are just Russians, and that Ukraine has always been part of Russia.

That shite will get your arse beat in Ukraine.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5758 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 6:49 pm to
Appears the insurgency has begun...

Ukrainian civilians living under Russian occupation have blown up a café close to the puppet government’s headquarters in the city of Kherson in what appears to be the first terror attack in occupied territories.

At least four people were injured in the explosion targeting the shop frequented by Russian soldiers, amid growing signs of a resistance movement inside the swathes of Ukraine controlled by Moscow.

Russia described the explosion as a “terror attack” on Russian-held territory in Ukraine, with a Ukrainian military official saying the café has been used by Russian leaders who have “had lunch there since the first days” of the occupation.

“Today's explosion shows that the fight will not stop for a second or a minute. Kherson Oblast is Ukraine,” he said following the attack.

Originally published by The Telegraph

Ukraine resistance blows up cafe used by Russian leaders
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8190 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 6:52 pm to
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Ukraine’s military doesn’t lack soldiers; mass mobilization efforts and an influx of volunteers have doubled the ranks of the armed forces since February. The more pressing shortfalls, Tarnavskiy told me, are of experience and skill. “A lot of regular military personnel have been killed,” he said. “They are replaced by doctors and mechanics. We have manpower, but much of this core”—those with combat experience who could lead and motivate new recruits—“is either dead or wounded.


That has been my concern for Ukraine. Can they minimize losses enough that incoming replacement troops have a chance to learn under the experienced guys.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6149 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:02 pm to
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the café has been used by Russian leaders who have “had lunch there since the first days” of the occupation.


Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:07 pm to
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??#Russia guarantees that if #Kyiv demines the ports, #Moscow will not use this situation for military purposes - Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov. LINK


We super duper pink promise we won't send landing ships right after
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 7:08 pm
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8683 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 8:41 pm to
Do you jerk off to a picture of Putin every night? Just curious. Sorry but from what I’ve seen Russian troops look like an absolute embarrassment. The ones that aren’t sent out to be cannon fodder are destroying their own vehicles so they don’t have to advance. Yes Russia has an advantage in artillery no question but they are old as shite systems that even as you said have to carpet bomb to hit their targets while the Ukrainians, with less artillery, have better quality that are far more precise in what they hit with far fewer shells needed to accomplish the task.
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