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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:13 pm to LSUPilot07
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:13 pm to LSUPilot07
Which is what makes the term “special military operation” such a farce. “Special” implies specific and tactical.
Reality is the complete opposite.
Reality is the complete opposite.
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 1:14 pm
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:32 pm to Jim Rockford
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Donetsk court sentences three foreign Ukraine volunteers to death.
There is utility in allowing wartime fighters to surrender with the understanding that they won't be executed by the people they surrender to. If everyone abides by that simple rule, then surrender saves lives on all sides. The alternative is that no one will surrender, knowing that that is a death sentence, and so everyone backed into a corner fights to the death. That causes more death.
This story shows some very bad decision making by the Russians. They must understand that they will be treated the same if their guys surrender.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:43 pm to TBoy
Russia is sending a message, mate. Don't poke Misha Bear.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:50 pm to TBoy
Let's remember that today's Kremlin is not a military organization, it is a crime syndicate. A mafia. These three soldiers and all other military prisoners and Ukrainian civilians held in Russia are hostages, held for leverage and ransom. That's how we must frame this issue.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:03 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Putin is dropping the pretenses about Nazi's, NATO, and the rest of his horseshite at this point, just admitting this is all about MRGA-ing.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:15 pm to Coeur du Tigre
I remember reading their stories right after they surrendered. They were with the group of Ukrainian marines that surrendered two-three weeks before Mariupol fell. They were not with the Azov battalion.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:20 pm to TigerDoc
That is exactly what this has been about the whole time. Novorossiya. This story about being threatened by NATO expansion is bullshite. I watched an interview with C Rice and she said that she had met Putin many, many times during her time as National Security Advisor and Sec. Of State and and stated that Putin never mentioned NATO expansion. Not once. She publicly stated that this is about Russian expansion.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:21 pm to Jim Rockford
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Russian President Vladimir Putin appeared to liken himself to conquering monarch Peter the Great and spoke of his country’s need to “take back” territory and reinforce itself as the Kremlin’s forces continued a grinding war of attrition in eastern Ukraine.
Thoughts? Both Vlad and Pyotr marked holy Epiphany by plunging into frigid waters
Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:30 pm to SirWinston
I find it ironic that so many are freaking out about political opposition being arrested here in the US (what this Jan. 6 committee is doing along with the FBI) as well they should be, but the same people support Putin and what he is doing. I don't get it. Putin has either arrested, forced into exile or murdered all of the opposition in Russia. He is even arresting people that are opposed to the "special military operation" and threatening them with 15 years in prison. The same people raise hell about censorship in the US. How can one be screaming about the events in the US but turn a blind eye to what Putin has done in Russia.?
If you are opposed to all of this bullshite happening in the US but are actively supporting Putin and Russia you are nothing but a damn hypocrite in my book. Two wrongs don't make a right.
If you are opposed to all of this bullshite happening in the US but are actively supporting Putin and Russia you are nothing but a damn hypocrite in my book. Two wrongs don't make a right.
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:32 pm to AU86
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I watched an interview with C Rice and she said that she had met Putin many, many times during her time as National Security Advisor and Sec. Of State and and stated that Putin never mentioned NATO expansion. Not once. She publicly stated that this is about Russian expansion
This is a good point that should be highlighted. We all have known this NATO expansion threat was just a red herring. But everyone needs to be reminded that these were not actual concerns that were shared at the time.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:37 pm to SirWinston
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Russia is sending a message, mate. Don't poke Misha Bear.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:59 pm to AGGIES
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This is a good point that should be highlighted. We all have known this NATO expansion threat was just a red herring. But everyone needs to be reminded that these were not actual concerns that were shared at the time.
It was mostly propaganda brought here by the red brigade to try and justify what Russia was doing.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:14 pm to TigerDoc
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Putin is dropping the pretenses about Nazi's, NATO, and the rest of his horseshite at this point, just admitting this is all about MRGA-ing.
This would appear to be an opening for the US and any other interested countries, especially Poland and the Baltic States to enter the war on a preemptive basis to stop Putin in his tracks. He is clearly stating that he has begun a war to reestablish the Soviet Union.
Now is the time to defeat Russia and to establish a regime change in that horrible country.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:19 pm to Kentucker
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Now is the time to defeat Russia and to establish a regime change in that horrible country.
I have to admit if I could snap my fingers and regime change would happen I would be reluctant. The devil you know, be careful what you wish for and the like.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:26 pm to TigerDoc
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Putin is dropping the pretenses about Nazi's, NATO, and the rest of his horseshite
Poliboard tankies hardest hit
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:26 pm to cypher
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Ukrainian civilians living under Russian occupation have blown up a café close to the puppet government’s headquarters in the city of Kherson in what appears to be the first terror attack in occupied territories.
I’m sure the Russian occupiers had been eating a lot of dingleberry pie in that restaurant before it was blown up.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:38 pm to Obtuse1
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I have to admit if I could snap my fingers and regime change would happen I would be reluctant. The devil you know, be careful what you wish for and the like.
The devil we know is a delusional megalomaniac who will continue to sacrifice innocent soldiers and civilians on both sides because of his desire to be the new Peter the Great.
Russia needs to fall, be occupied and westernized.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:45 pm to Kentucker
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The devil we know is a delusional megalomaniac who will continue to sacrifice innocent soldiers and civilians on both sides because of his desire to be the new Peter the Great.
I 100% agree. I just don't know what will ooze into the power vacuum. Russians seem to like their version of a "strong" leader. I didn't say I wouldn't snap my fingers but I would absolutely have my moment of doubt and hope it didn't become a moment of shame later.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:16 pm to Kentucker
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Poland and the Baltic States to enter the war on a preemptive basis to stop Putin in his tracks.
As a NATO member I'd be surprised if Poland enters the war officially, that may well lead to Putin lobbing a nuke into Poland. But they are doing a hell of a lot to fack up Putin. And I wouldn't be surprised to see "volunteer" Poles entering the fight. Perun had a good 50 minute video drop a few days ago on Poland's role in this war:
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In this video I try to give historical context to Poland's decision to throw its resources behind Ukraine and put focus on what this nation, with an economy nominally the size of New Jersey's (ppp-aside), has done to keep the Ukrainian army fighting while preserving the lives and wellbeing of millions of Ukrainian civilians.
Perun - Poland and Ukraine/Russia
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