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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:33 pm to
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:33 pm to
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Shocking: Ukraine reportedly selling American Javelin Missiles on the Dark Web


Pentagon thinks this is Ruskie propaganda. But we've heard that call before. Before the Ukrainians embark of graft and corruption in selling needed weaponry they have a "special military operation" to contend with. The Russians take over, all the arms traffickers will go to Siberia.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:34 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/22/26 at 10:05 pm
Posted by Baw Vivant
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:52 pm to
Oh god his vyvanse just kicked in
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:54 pm to
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I bet all the pro-Russian posters who were prematurely celebrating earlier this week


They were, in ignorance of Russias retreats from Kyiv and Kharkiv. Now, unlike Russia, the Ukrainians appear to have had a plan and are successfully fighting back. The russians just ran leaving behind the evidence of their rape and pillage tactics.
Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:54 pm to
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They're not afraid of an invasion they're afraid of a "color revolution" and someone like Nalvany being installed, and IMO that's not an unreasonable fear. It happened in Georgia and Ukraine and almost happened in Belarus.

You say that like it’s a bad thing.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45766 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:58 pm to
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Palmetto98


Sorry that your boys fell into a trap.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38247 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:01 pm to
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They're not afraid of an invasion they're afraid of a "color revolution" and someone like Nalvany being installed, and IMO that's not an unreasonable fear. It happened in Georgia and Ukraine and almost happened in Belarus.


God forbid the people don’t want a lifetime dictator. Wait, I’ll save you the effort. “It was a coup!” “We we’re meddling.!” Never mind Russia actually tried to assassinate the pro western candidate who won in 2004.
This post was edited on 6/4/22 at 6:08 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45766 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:02 pm to
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They were, in ignorance of Russias retreats from Kyiv and Kharkiv. Now, unlike Russia, the Ukrainians appear to have had a plan and are successfully fighting back. The russians just ran leaving behind the evidence of their rape and pillage tactics.



They have a plan and it involves multiple fronts and the use of reserves. It is also more than what we can figure out. So I guess will we have to do like one of my sauce(s) said. Just watch and see.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:02 pm to
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Shocking: Ukraine reportedly selling American Javelin Missiles on the Dark Web


The Twitter account in the article appears to be decidedly pro-Russian and it doesn’t make much sense for Ukraine to start selling western weapons they desperately need and risk stopping the flow of them, especially when their strategy and effectiveness seems to be working quite well. It doesn’t make sense. What are they going to buy with the $30k if the west were to stop sending or selling them weapons for fear they sell them to an Iran or the like?
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8685 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:05 pm to
The Ukraines are being rearmed with superior weapons et and now not just the U.S. is involved. Everyone is pitching in and Russia doesn’t have the will power to fight in its ranks or the equipment to do it. They have a lot of old 152mm howitzers and that’s really about it. The Ukrainians have the tank numbers and shoulder fired anti tank weapons now to blunt an armor attack and they may have a 2:1 disadvantage in artillery but a lot of that artillery is far superior and more accurate than what Russia has. They also have Bayraktar TB2 drones that Russia has absolutely no defense for because they can fly higher then their jamming lasers can pick them up. They are also getting attack drones from the US and thanks to Sweden and Denmark for sending their Robot 17 and Harpoon missiles respectively the a Russian Navy can’t come close to the Ukrainian coast in the Black Sea region especially around Odessa area. They basically have to stay anchored 75 miles off the coast unless they want another ship sunk.
Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
2841 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:07 pm to
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The Twitter account in the article appears to be decidedly pro-Russian and it doesn’t make much sense for Ukraine to start selling western weapons they desperately need and risk stopping the flow of them, especially when their strategy and effectiveness seems to be working quite well. It doesn’t make sense. What are they going to buy with the $30k if the west were to stop sending or selling them weapons for fear they sell them to an Iran or the like?

Hey Dabos, stop using logic and commone sense, Landshark has an agenda he’s trying to vomit.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:46 pm to
Ukraine just keeps edging the Red Amerikans in this thread.

Leads them up just to the edge of ejaculation and then, whiff!, it’s gone.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5759 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:45 pm to
French arms firm busts sanctions to help Russia build weapons

In France, Thales is not just a public company. There are three arguments to support this assertion.

1) The company specializes in the manufacture of systems for military, aerospace and maritime purposes

2) The company's shares are listed on the Paris Stock Exchange

3) It is not so much the private shareholder (the Dassault family with its 24.62% share) that is important, but the French government and its 25.67% share. Simply put, a company that is more than a quarter controlled by the French government, exports components that kill Ukrainians.

According to open sources, Thales supplied Catherine FC thermal imaging cameras to Russia, which were used to manufacture the Essa, Plissa and Sosna-U thermal sighting systems. They enhance the combat capabilities of modified Russian T-80, T-90, T-72 tanks and other military vehicles.

Since this model of equipment was created in 2016, foreign manufacturers had to supply components at least a year earlier. Consequently, Thales sold military goods and technologies to Russia after the introduction of the first wave of sanctions (Council Regulation (EU) No. 833/2014 of July 31, 2014).

There's more....

originally published by The New Voice of Ukraine

Yahoo news

Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8685 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:54 pm to
It’s the French what do you expect. They were ungrateful when we liberated them in WW2 because of the destruction. They are just not very kind people. I’ve been to France a good many times in my life so I’m saying this from experience. Maybe it’s just people acting normally and I’m a southern guy who believes in hospitality but you can tell they hate Americans.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:55 pm to
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The Twitter account in the article appears to be decidedly pro-Russian and it doesn’t make much sense for Ukraine to start selling western weapons they desperately need and risk stopping the flow of them, especially when their strategy and effectiveness seems to be working quite well. It doesn’t make sense.


Its because its not true. They ran a story yesterday that in Syria you could buy a Javelin for 15,000...only problem there is nobody in Syria with 15 bucks muck less 15k. Also how are these weapons getting out? not flying, not by ship.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 8:35 pm to
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3) It is not so much the private shareholder (the Dassault family with its 24.62% share) that is important, but the French government and its 25.67% share. Simply put, a company that is more than a quarter controlled by the French government, exports components that kill Ukrainians.

According to open sources, Thales supplied Catherine FC thermal imaging cameras to Russia, which were used to manufacture the Essa, Plissa and Sosna-U thermal sighting systems. They enhance the combat capabilities of modified Russian T-80, T-90, T-72 tanks and other military vehicles.

Since this model of equipment was created in 2016, foreign manufacturers had to supply components at least a year earlier. Consequently, Thales sold military goods and technologies to Russia after the introduction of the first wave of sanctions (Council Regulation (EU) No. 833/2014 of July 31, 2014).


Feels like the longer this war goes, the higher the risk of Europe fracturing either in the process or in the post war period.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8685 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 9:23 pm to
It would be a financial death sentence to France to side with Putin.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 10:20 pm to


Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 10:29 pm to
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Go back to the Tiger Rant or Saints Talk where you can opine on why the Tiger bats clash with their uniforms or which is the prettiest Saints uniform,,,


Not even up for debate

Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33024 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 10:37 pm to
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Maybe it’s just people acting normally and I’m a southern guy who believes in hospitality but you can tell they hate Americans.


I’ve always been treated with the utmost hospitality anytime I’ve been to France, which spans roughly five months over a half dozen different trips. Maybe you’re a shithead when you’re over there?
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