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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:14 pm to Lima Whiskey
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:14 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Commanders usually get fired for making a mistake, or for not being aggressive enough
Yep, or for losing battles.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:12 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Poroshenko explained in a speech that they would prevent the people of the Donbas from having normal lives. We’ll make them hide in their basements. They’ve kept it up for eight years now.
Sooooo.... By all means, alleviate their suffering by invading them with a foreign army and forcibly relocating their population (or what's left of it) once you are through shelling their cities also.
What are you trying to prove? Nothing you have ever posted justifies this invasion.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:14 pm to DabosDynasty
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Would explain how we went from Severondetsk was going to be a total blood bath for Russia to Ukrainian retreat relatively quickly. Hope it’s true, but we’ll see.
Not trying to toot my own horn but I posted several times last week that my sauce(s) in Ukraine had a surprise for Russia in Sievierdonetsk. I also posted that the Ukrainians just wanted to fight it out in Sievierdonetsk for two weeks or so.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:27 pm to Lima Whiskey
quote:Fight with shoe polish and soaked toilet paper. Even comrade Whiskey has to admit that is embarrassing.
The Russian 35th army, transferred from Far East and stationed in Izyum, is successfully destroyed by its own army command as evidenced from this full of irony and snark report received and shared by a Russian livejournal blogger. It tells us about an acute lack of manpower, communications, trench tools and other equipment, in the ill-fated army.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:31 pm to BoardReader
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General Alexander Dvornikov was replaced by General Gennady Zhidko, former commander of the Eastern Military District and Russia’s deputy defense minister. Dvornikov was oft referred to as the Butcher of Syria, and was regarded as the 'get serious and end this' candidate. He lasted about two months in command, before his dismissal.
Which Russian troll was singing the Butcher’s praises so hard when he took over?
Posted on 6/3/22 at 11:44 pm to Lima Whiskey
Lima, Do you view this as a positive or negative development for Russia?
Posted on 6/4/22 at 12:03 am to Lima Whiskey
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The Ukrainians have a policy of terror shelling civil targets in the Donbas.
Poroshenko explained in a speech that they would prevent the people of the Donbas from having normal lives. We’ll make them hide in their basements. They’ve kept it up for eight years now.
Funny how the only evidence of this that I can find comes from the Russian state media (or a couple of random Russian YouTube accounts with comments turned off) and none give the full context in the speech.
I only found one source that even attempted to give a full transcript of the speech in question. It said the following:
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This war can’t be won with weapons. Every bullet produces two enemies. And every peaceful day Ukrainian state demonstrates on the liberated territories that citizens, who sang praises to false separatist regime a month ago, receive heat, electricity, at last they can send their children to school, they started to receive pensions, survivorship and disablement payments, they have jobs, they have salaries.
And from the other side – I have spoken by phone with a woman, the associate professor of Taras Shevchenko Luhansk University. I have asked her: “How do you spend your day?” and she has answered me: “I get up at 5 am in order to reserve a place in a queue and to get two pots of water. As we have no water. I return home at 10 am and hurry to a queue for bread. One and a half loaves of bread. Till 12 o’clock there would be no bread. I return from there and stay at home from that moment because armed men start to appear in streets from 2 pm and they could shoot everyone”.
. . .
And we win together by means of peace! Because we have jobs, and they have not. We have pensions, and they have not. We have support of children and pensioners, they have not. Our children would go to kindergartens and schools, theirs would be sitting in cellars. Because they do not know anything how to do! That’s how we are going to win this war. Because wars are won in minds, and not on the combat fields! They do not know this, but I know.
This transcript, and translation, happens to indicate that he meant exactly the opposite of what you insinuated. Is it accurate? I don’t know. But unless you have a reliable source stating otherwise, I’m inclined to go out on a limb and guess that the former president of Ukraine probably didn’t publicly state, during his term, that they were bombing civilians to keep them from going to school.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 12:05 am to Lima Whiskey
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In the video, Mironyuk shoves a knife in the eye of the POW, swirling it around while the POW screams in agony, then he finishes it of by banging the knife through the eye socket and into the brain.
Should I feel bad? I honestly don’t. God forbid this country ever faced an invasion on the scale of what Ukraine is facing from Russia, but if we did, I would hope our countrymen would be cutting out eyeballs of the invaders.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 12:08 am to Chromdome35
That looks like fresh troops and combat vehicles to me. If this is truly in Severodonetsk, then maybe there is credence to the Ukrainians having sprung a trap on Russia rumblings.
https://mobile.twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1532868195467632641

https://mobile.twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1532868195467632641
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Supposedly UA forces on top of BMP-1s in the outskirts of Severodonetsk.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 12:27 am to Chromdome35
There seem to be a lot of recent pictures of new Ukrainian weapons moving towards the fight
https://mobile.twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1532407343891234817
https://mobile.twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1532349855519191042
https://mobile.twitter.com/mekonn/status/1532479392068296710
https://mobile.twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1531729472231202816
https://mobile.twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1532407343891234817
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Two BM-21 Grad 122mm multiple rocket launchers, captured from the Russian army by Ukrainian forces, are firing now at the Russian positions in the vicinity of Izium, #Kharkiv Oblast.
https://mobile.twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1532349855519191042
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A Ukrainian convoy was filmed passing by somewhere in #Kyiv Oblast - at least 4 recently donated M109A3GN 155mm self-propelled howitzers can be seen.
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Interestingly, a Ukrainian 1V13 battery fire control vehicle is also present in this convoy, meaning M109A3GN howitzers may have been adapted to work together.
https://mobile.twitter.com/mekonn/status/1532479392068296710
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These were flown in. Express delivery from Norway with love
https://mobile.twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1531729472231202816
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Polish ???? T-72M1R tanks operated by the Ukrainian army driving through Bakhmut, #Donetsk Oblast - notice one had its smoke launchers
removed before installing Kontakt-1 ERA blocks. These are decent tanks with good thermal scopes, communications and other new systems.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 1:02 am to Chromdome35
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/starving-russian-commander-says-vladimir-27142522
That guy 2 to the right of the speaker.
This looks like a 16yo to me, wonder what his age is?
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Starving Russian commander says Vladimir Putin has thrown troops to slaughter in Ukraine
In a video shared on Telegram, a commander leading the Donetsk Republic's 113th regiment fighting for Russia complains about being sent to Ukraine without proper guns, medicine or food
A Russian commander was filmed complaining about being thrown to the slaughter fighting against Ukrainian forces with no food, equipment or medicine.
The shocking video captures the Russian military commander of the Donetsk Republic's 113th regiment reading off a notepad of some kind as he makes the speech.
His revelations paint a grim picture about the state of some of Vladimir Putin's troops fighting in the east of Ukraine.
In the video, released by a pro-Russian telegram channel, he stands in front of his battle weary soldiers, who are armed.
He reveals how they have been fighting on the front in the Kherson region “in hunger and cold” with no medicine or proper weapons.
That guy 2 to the right of the speaker.
This looks like a 16yo to me, wonder what his age is?
This post was edited on 6/4/22 at 1:06 am
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:35 am to doubleb
Morning, my guy in Russia is back again after going offline for 3-4 days something about his VPN of choice being banned or something. Something with Vlad is breaking down cancer wise and the cancer has spread and is inoperable. Supposedly the Butcher of Syria conveyed the situation in Ukraine mostly accurately and Vlad asked if his fellow Generals felt the same. The top brass have told him at present and for the foreseeable future this war is “Unwinnable” even throwing more men at this won’t help, there are fewer RU soldiers/commanders that won’t acknowledge this but worse still GRU are acknowledging this. There is a FSB plan for civil unrest leading to civil war as more and more people in Russia start to figure out they’ve been lied to and confidence in the Kremlin starts to collapse. I’m being told this is a matter of time. Russia and Russians are in some respects illogical counterintuitive and things happen that you can’t predict. The fact that there is a plan in place says everything you need to know about Vlads mindset/lack of stability. He’s got every right to his paranoia because people are going to kill him if he doesn’t step aside in an negotiation. He doesn’t really know who has already tried to kill him and it’s making him crazy. Speculation is it will be novachok that will be used which is the ultimate in irony. So much weaponry is arriving but for some reason Russia truly fears HM missiles the most. It’s almost irrational like the German WWII soldiers wanting to see the continuous firing howitzers upon capture. Finland Sweden are in Turkey will be placated and are moving away from Russian interests. China is going cold for Russia and switching to when this war in Ukraine is over mode. China has made the calculations that Russia won’t be able to hold and will be pushed out of Donbas. The worst calculation by China may be that a severely weakened Russia is a good thing. Oh and folks in Russia collectively said WTF to the no more fatalities report lol. It may have actually pushed people into the “are you fricking kidding me?” camp ordinary Russians know that there are funerals after funerals taking place and that there’s been no communication with their loved ones in weeks and months in some cases. I will speak with my CZ and Baltics friends tomorrow.
ETA not only are the reports of RU troops fragging COs true but there are stories going around RU troops that the Generals are planning a revolt or something. Anybody with pull is avoiding Ukraine entirely. Also the EU oil by sea embargo shook my guys in Russia OnG.
ETA not only are the reports of RU troops fragging COs true but there are stories going around RU troops that the Generals are planning a revolt or something. Anybody with pull is avoiding Ukraine entirely. Also the EU oil by sea embargo shook my guys in Russia OnG.
This post was edited on 6/4/22 at 7:53 am
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:12 am to LSUCanFAN
Thanks CAN, good stuff. Lots to unpack here, especially about that attempt on Putin's life recently. That was just a rumor for a long time but it now seems to be valid. The question for Vlad and everyone else is -- Who?
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:33 am to gizmothepug
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Should I feel bad? I honestly don’t. God forbid this country ever faced an invasion on the scale of what Ukraine is facing from Russia, but if we did, I would hope our countrymen would be cutting out eyeballs of the invaders.
As long as you’re ok with our boys being tortured in countries that we invade, I guess you’re right.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:35 am to Coeur du Tigre
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people in Russia start to figure out they’ve been lied to and confidence in the Kremlin starts to collapse
But someone posted Russian support was growing. Maybe it was that troll Palmetto.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:52 am to Chromdome35
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That guy 2 to the right of the speaker
Gary V lookin' rough
Posted on 6/4/22 at 8:34 am to Chromdome35
Updates from the Popsona area.
https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1533016675335000067

https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1533016675335000067
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In the Popasna- Bakhmut. RU forces area doing daily attempts to make progress. It seems like RU forces have lost their momentum, this could be because of the Siverodonetsk offensive and diversion of air assets to that area,
This post was edited on 6/4/22 at 8:42 am
Posted on 6/4/22 at 8:44 am to Chromdome35
This is a really good read about the structure of the Russian Army and how it has impacted the War in Ukraine. If you are interested in why Russia's Army has underperformed in Ukraine, this is probably part of the reason.
https://warontherocks.com/2022/06/not-built-for-purpose-the-russian-militarys-ill-fated-force-design/
I thought this was an interesting paragraph in the article. Bolding added by me. If this is true, then in the first phase of the war, the Russian units in the north that got mauled by Ukraine were mainly comprised of "professional" contract soldiers who cannot be as easily replaced via mobilization.
https://warontherocks.com/2022/06/not-built-for-purpose-the-russian-militarys-ill-fated-force-design/
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Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was a deeply flawed military operation, from Moscow’s assumptions about an easy victory, to a lack of preparation, poor planning, and force employment. Less attention has been paid, however, to Russian force structure and manpower issues as a critical element now shaping outcomes in this war. Plans rarely survive first contact with an opponent and militaries invariably must adapt, but strategic force structure choices can prove decisive. Force structure reveals a great deal about a military and its assumptions of what wars it plans to fight and how it plans to fight them.
Some of the most significant problems being experienced by the Russian armed forces are the result of conscious choices and tradeoffs. These decisions help explain many of the observed struggles the Russian armed forces have had in combined arms operations, fighting in urban environments, and attempts to hold terrain. The full extent of Russia’s personnel weaknesses has become clear during this war. As it stands, the Russian military has a shortage of manpower — especially infantry. The Russian military also compromised by establishing a partial mobilization force. Consequently, the Russian army was optimized for a short and sharp war while lacking the capacity to sustain a major conventional conflict at “peace time” manning levels. The Russian armed forces are now pressed to sustain operations in Ukraine and attempting what amounts to a partial mobilization to stem the prospect of significant reversals on the battlefield.
I thought this was an interesting paragraph in the article. Bolding added by me. If this is true, then in the first phase of the war, the Russian units in the north that got mauled by Ukraine were mainly comprised of "professional" contract soldiers who cannot be as easily replaced via mobilization.
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After Russia’s initial invasion with offensives against Ukraine in 2014 and 2015, the Russian military prioritized having more permanent readiness battalion tactical groups exclusively manned by contract soldiers and officers. Since 2016, each regiment or brigade was supposed to be able to form two battalion tactical groups with only officers and contract soldiers, while conscripts would comprise the third battalion. In practice, the situation varied across units, depending on their overall level of readiness. According to Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov, Russia had 66 battalion tactical groups in 2016 with plans to rapidly increase the figure to 96 by the end of the year, 115 in 2017, and 126 in 2018. Shoigu said Russia had 136 battalion tactical groups in 2019 and 168 in August 2021. These are supposed to have between 700 to 900 servicemembers, but as the official number of battalion tactical groups was rapidly increasing, the number of soldiers serving under contract plateaued, and the annual draft figure has remained largely unchanged over the past four years. Consequently, contemporary depictions of the Russian battalion tactical group’s typical size and composition were inaccurate.
This post was edited on 6/4/22 at 8:54 am
Posted on 6/4/22 at 8:56 am to Chromdome35
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