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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:25 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:25 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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That would be the most retarded thing done in this whole retarded war.
Nah. The most retarded thing was invading to begin with.
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:52 am to Kentucker
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Neither Russia or China have “take-off” hypersonic missiles. They still use a slow launch that climbs to an altitude that will assist the missile in gaining hypersonic speed.
The US, OTOH, has developed and tested missiles that launch and straight away achieve hypersonic speed, eliminating the vulnerable launch period.
I found a great illustration as an update to my earlier post. The Russkies and Chinamen use the glide technique while the US has developed the hypersonic cruise missile using ramjet technology.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:54 am to Joshjrn
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"The victor is not victorious if the vanquished does not consider himself so.” - Ennius
Yea I just shake my head at the people talking about a winning nation and a losing nation in this invasion. Neither Ukraine nor Russia are emerging from this better because of it. Countries and people the world over are going to be worse off because of this.
The most likely outcome is just a changed world. People and nations don’t always survive change.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:08 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Yeah, because having them learn and shore up their weaknesses and get stronger is in our best interest...
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Spaceman Spiff
Some people argue just to argue. Go Away.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:13 am to StormyMcMan
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The most retarded thing was invading to begin with.
It was. I love the sign from a Canadian protest.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:13 am to Chromdome35
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Chromdome35
Thats a cool timelapse of the battle front.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:29 am to ned nederlander
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Neither Ukraine nor Russia are emerging from this better because of it. Countries and people the world over are going to be worse off because of this.
I don't agree with this. Your pronouncement is over a short term. If Russia does not succeed in Ukraine, Ukraine in the long range will benefit greatly. And Russia will suffer. The world goes on after wars and beyond the lifespan of Vladimir Putin. Let's see where we are 25 or 50 years from now.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:48 am to Sid in Lakeshore
Current situation around Kharkiv.
Given the lack of real advancement into Russian flanks, I think this looks more like an attempt to draw away Russian forces in the Izium/Lyman area than a real offensive.
https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1532469655276773392
Given the lack of real advancement into Russian flanks, I think this looks more like an attempt to draw away Russian forces in the Izium/Lyman area than a real offensive.
https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1532469655276773392
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Kharkiv Frontline Maps
Kharkiv Update- Ukrainian forces liberated the town of Vesele and are advancing towards the towns of Slobozhanske and Neskuchne. Fighting continues around Rubizhne and Ternova. Fighting across the river west of Staryi Saltiv continues.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:48 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Gen. Les Milesky is breaking out the secret playbook.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:58 am to Chromdome35
https://twitter.com/mdmitri91/status/1532689797269045248
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The Russian 35th army, transferred from Far East and stationed in Izyum, is successfully destroyed by its own army command as evidenced from this full of irony and snark report received and shared by a Russian livejournal blogger.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 11:32 am to Chromdome35
I find this hard to believe, but I want to believe!
Posted on 6/3/22 at 11:34 am to doubleb
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I find this hard to believe, but I want to believe!
Exactly. If these kinds of reports are genuine we should see areas of the Russian lines start to collapse. That hasn't happened in the locations of the present conflict.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 12:21 pm to TBoy
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Exactly. If these kinds of reports are genuine we should see areas of the Russian lines start to collapse. That hasn't happened in the locations of the present conflict.
I view it with skeptisim as well; however, given the amount of units Russia has in the theater it might not lead to collapse.
There has been a lot of anecdotal evidence of Russian morale issues. Where there is smoke there is fire, and there has been a lot of smoke on this.
Here is an article from a couple of weeks ago.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61607184
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Some Russian troops are refusing to return to fight in Ukraine because of their experiences on the front line at the start of the invasion, according to Russian human rights lawyers and activists. The BBC has been speaking to one such soldier.
"I don't want to go [back to Ukraine] to kill and be killed," says Sergey - not his real name - who spent five weeks fighting in Ukraine earlier this year.
He is now home in Russia, having taken legal advice to avoid being sent back to the front line. Sergey is just one of hundreds of Russian soldiers understood to have been seeking such advice.
Reading this and other commentary on the situation, one thing really raises a question for me: Can Russian troops use their legal system to avoid service in combat? I have a hard time imagining something similar in the US military.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 12:51 pm to Chromdome35
I don't think enlisted men have a leg to stand on, but their conscripts and Rosgvardia (troops for internal defense) are supposed to be able to opt out. A number of Rosgvardia have refused to deploy to Ukraine and have been fired, and in this case lost their wrongful termination case though their lawyer said their officers had given them an option not to serve in Ukraine. Russia lacks an independent judiciary and the Kremlin is clearly trying to send the message that if you serve, you have to deploy.
This post was edited on 6/3/22 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:15 pm to TigerDoc
Seems like judiciary in Russia is just dudes offing people or throwing them in the gulag. Seems like a terrible place to live.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:26 pm to Abstract Queso Dip
General Alexander Dvornikov was replaced by General Gennady Zhidko, former commander of the Eastern Military District and Russia’s deputy defense minister.
Dvornikov was oft referred to as the Butcher of Syria, and was regarded as the 'get serious and end this' candidate. He lasted about two months in command, before his dismissal.
Dvornikov was oft referred to as the Butcher of Syria, and was regarded as the 'get serious and end this' candidate. He lasted about two months in command, before his dismissal.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:31 pm to BoardReader
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Dvornikov was oft referred to as the Butcher of Syria, and was regarded as the 'get serious and end this' candidate. He lasted about two months in command, before his dismissal.
I guess he was the atrocity architect. Lived up to his moniker, I guess.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 3:21 pm to BoardReader
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General Alexander Dvornikov was replaced by General Gennady Zhidko, former commander of the Eastern Military District and Russia’s deputy defense minister.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 3:23 pm to TBoy
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Butcher of Syria,
Gosh ya hate to see it...The Russians were really effective in Syria against old men, women and children.
This post was edited on 6/3/22 at 3:30 pm
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