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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:23 am to gizmothepug
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:23 am to gizmothepug
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How can Russia becoming the super power they once were, with China right beside them be good for the USA? What am I missing?
Russia is nowhere close to becoming a super power.
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Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:39 am to SirWinston
Would you know that without this current conflict?
Posted on 5/31/22 at 2:00 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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frick Off man.
I want to reciprocate
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You must be a paid shill to hold such a moronic position.
I understand that you're hiring me and are you ready to pay my bills? Where can I send my payment details?
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 2:30 am
Posted on 5/31/22 at 2:03 am to Tigris
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Little Green Men as well, which took it beyond self defense.
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In Crimea
That's right, only then specify when it happened.
When "trains of friendship" went to the Donbass with cuttings from shovels and Molotov cocktails. Crimea was about to secede from Ukraine. From that moment on, the "green men" appeared. no one had seen them before.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 2:07 am to AU86
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Wagner Forces were used in the Donbass along with unmarked Russian forces.
There was no Wagner there, and there were no "unmarked" ones either.
They appeared after February 24 and you can see what happened when they appeared.
Well, think for yourself why "unmarked" sit and 8! endure shelling for years and take nothing in return?
For all 8 years, Ukraine has declared that it is at war with the Russian Federation, and the Russian Federation has said that it is not there.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 2:09 am to WeeWee
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Well we finally got someone to admit to being a Russian troll. How many roubles are you getting to post here?
Come to our Russian forum, and you will also be asked how many cents you sell your posts for.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 2:14 am to gizmothepug
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That says everything I need to know, you’re right, we are a completely different people.
We are really very different people.
Read my post again. I'm not sure I wrote it right. I'll try the same in other words.
"I was in the USA and understood why pistols are not allowed in Russia"
Posted on 5/31/22 at 2:21 am to Lakeboy7
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The EU just committed to buying 2/3 less raw petroleum from Russia. Looks like the pressure is coming from all sides.
But Ukraine has some nice goodies on the way and more troops entering the fray. I'd tell France and Germany to frick off (for now)
And you write that China licks its lips at Russian energy?
Everything that the EU refuses to buy is automatically bought by China. And with each purchase, it becomes in a more advantageous competitive position. his products are cheaper.
As a result, who is the EU doing worse by refusing cheap oil and gas?
Posted on 5/31/22 at 4:58 am to ruff fish
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There was no Wagner there, and there were no "unmarked" ones either.
You cannot be serious...
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The term also sometimes used to refer to Russian troops during the War in Donbas, as the Kremlin denied their official involvement or presence of their troops, and they wore unmarked uniforms or disguised themselves as pro-Russian separatists
LINK
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Well, think for yourself why "unmarked" sit and 8! endure shelling for years and take nothing in return?
For all 8 years, Ukraine has declared that it is at war with the Russian Federation, and the Russian Federation has said that it is not there.
Because they are paid soldiers doing what they are told...or are you actually saying you belive Russia had zero people on the ground in Donbas until recently?
Posted on 5/31/22 at 7:07 am to Coeur du Tigre
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At that point Scholz, Orban and Macron will show their true colors. While publically continuing to 'send thoughts and prayers' (and little else) to the Ukrainians, in private meetings they will threaten to split the EU / NATO coalition in order to force the Ukrainians to negotiate. This will keep Putin from showing the world press the records of their past bribery.
The problem with this scenario is that the Ukrainians, Americans, English, Poles, Romanians, Lithuanians, Latvians and Estonians won't buy it. The Ukrainians don't need anyone's permission to keep fighting and Scholz and Macron don't have the stones to force the split. Their faction will be isolated and the public pressure on them will build. Eventually the dirt Putin has on them will be released by 'non-Russian' sources.
This will be an interesting, but problematic course of events.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 7:14 am to ruff fish
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There was no Wagner there, and there were no "unmarked" ones either.
Sure. We believe you Ivan.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 7:16 am to StormyMcMan
Do not feed the literal Russian. Let em starve.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 7:27 am to RLDSC FAN
British Defense Intelligence Update, May 30, 2022
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 7:29 am
Posted on 5/31/22 at 7:34 am to ruff fish
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ruff fish
Member since Feb 2021
Posted on 5/31/22 at 7:35 am to cypher
Yeesh. Not a good day to be a LT or CPT right now in Russia...
Posted on 5/31/22 at 7:43 am to Coeur du Tigre
I agree but for Ukraine to sustain the fight they have to get more help from the west. It is apparent that they need more heavy artillery and munitions and it doesn't seem to be getting there. I think eventually Ukraine will be forced to the negotiating table because it isn't getting the support that it needs.
Here is a short video by Times Radio with British General Tim Cross and they discuss this very issue regarding France and Germany. Very good program.
YouTube- Times Radio
Here is a short video by Times Radio with British General Tim Cross and they discuss this very issue regarding France and Germany. Very good program.
YouTube- Times Radio
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 7:55 am
Posted on 5/31/22 at 7:53 am to Abstract Queso Dip
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Do not feed the literal Russian. Let em starve.
It feels like we just sustained an overnight Russian counter-offensive right here.
Back to actual war news, it is apparent that Russia continues to pour basically everything into a single objective at extremely high cost. The winds may change quickly if the cost is as high as reported.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 7:55 am to Centinel
And a New York Yankees fan.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 7:58 am to TBoy
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It feels like we just sustained an overnight Russian counter-offensive right here.
Dang only one night?
Posted on 5/31/22 at 8:10 am to TBoy
Here is what I think happens:
Putin is going for broke on the capture of Sievierodonetsk and Luhansk for two reasons: 1. Another major city has fallen/ propaganda( Russia played the fall of Mariupol up big). He is banking on Russia's advance in Donbass to change the information narrative regarding the war. And it is working.
2. He is setting up the conditions for negotiations as from the point of strength. With the information narrative changing now, and unless it reverses pretty quickly I believe that support from the west will decrease. Biden has already backed off of sending the rocket systems. And then we will see pressure from the afore mentioned players (Germany and France) to force Zelenski to negotiate. If he eventually gives up territory for peace, his numbers will plummet and severely weaken his government. Russia in a short time/a few years will eventually take it all. Europe again will prove that it is unwilling to sacrifice or pay the costs for its own security. As long as America is willing to do it for them.
Putin is going for broke on the capture of Sievierodonetsk and Luhansk for two reasons: 1. Another major city has fallen/ propaganda( Russia played the fall of Mariupol up big). He is banking on Russia's advance in Donbass to change the information narrative regarding the war. And it is working.
2. He is setting up the conditions for negotiations as from the point of strength. With the information narrative changing now, and unless it reverses pretty quickly I believe that support from the west will decrease. Biden has already backed off of sending the rocket systems. And then we will see pressure from the afore mentioned players (Germany and France) to force Zelenski to negotiate. If he eventually gives up territory for peace, his numbers will plummet and severely weaken his government. Russia in a short time/a few years will eventually take it all. Europe again will prove that it is unwilling to sacrifice or pay the costs for its own security. As long as America is willing to do it for them.
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 8:24 am
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