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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/30/22 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13171 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 3:37 pm to
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The Russian Federation sent weapons to the inhabitants of Donbass for self-defense. I do not refuse this.


Little Green Men as well, which took it beyond self defense.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 3:58 pm to
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Little Green Men


In Crimea
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13171 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 4:48 pm to
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During the War in Donbass a Reuters correspondent reported from a settlement of Kolosky in Donetsk Oblast on 26 August 2014 that dozens of heavily armed strangers with Russian accents had appeared at the weekend and set up a road block (about 10 kilometres from the Russian border).[21] The men had white arm bands, the same identifying mark that was worn by ten men captured a few kilometers (miles) away by Ukrainian forces and who, in a video released on Tuesday (26 August 2014), said they were Russian paratroopers.[21] A report by the BBC referred to the unmarked Russian forces in the Donbass as a "Ghost Army"


Source - with further links - LGM
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 5:44 pm to
Wagner Forces were used in the Donbass along with unmarked Russian forces.
This post was edited on 5/30/22 at 5:46 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45766 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 5:55 pm to
Well we finally got someone to admit to being a Russian troll. How many roubles are you getting to post here?
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 6:49 pm to


Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 6:58 pm to
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Todays Russian society is the product of decades of purging/murdering your intellectual class… all that’s left are a sacks of potatoes.


I think you are spot on. I watch a YouTube channel called 1420 where a Muscovite interviews Russkies on the street. One of his questions was about changeability at the top of the Russian hierarchy.

They don’t seem to like it. They think they should elect him but they want him to rule for a long time. They think this brings stability to their society. I was flabbergasted.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45766 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:00 pm to


The UAF's goal is to kill 20,000 Russians in Severodonetsk and from what I am hearing and reading the Russians seems to be complying.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24292 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:04 pm to
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Well we finally got someone to admit to being a Russian troll. How many roubles are you getting to post here?


Well the Ruskies must know about the OT. They need some narrative shaping.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45766 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:05 pm to
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Russian Combat Forces have reportedly begun to withdraw from the Cities of Mikolaivka and Snihurivka along the Kherson/Mykolaiv Front due to Heavy Ukrainian Counteroffensives in the Region with Air and Ground Forces.


LINK

Hit 'em harder Ukraine. Hit 'em harder!
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:13 pm to
Thought it was just to annoy the Russians and not accomplish much
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45766 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:15 pm to
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Thought it was just to annoy the Russians and not accomplish much


Just wait and see. That is all my source(s) in Ukraine are telling me.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:24 pm to
It didn’t seem to fit the rest of Ukrainian strategy when it was suggested, but I haven’t served so have no applicable real world experience to apply, so I read and moved on.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8696 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:31 pm to
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I was in the USA, I understood why pistols are not allowed here.


That says everything I need to know, you’re right, we are a completely different people.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:37 pm to
Be prepared for the Germans and French to start putting pressure on Ukraine to strike a deal. It's coming.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24292 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:39 pm to
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you’re right, we are a completely different people.

They like to feel proud about their history as a people. And they like the strong man to lead them. Year after year, decade after decade. And they believe most anything they are told as long as it is the west is bad.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22872 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:42 pm to
Russia deploying T 62’s from the Cold War era to Eastern Ukraine.

An RPG can penetrate 500mm, about 20 in or more of steel depending on the ammo type, the T62 has 102mm frontal armor at 60 degrees, and 242mm armor on turret at it's thickest. Not nearly enough to withstand even basic RPG rounds.

But an effective range of just 300m leaves the operator vulnerable. These tanks are rolling Russian coffins.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5996 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:46 pm to
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Be prepared for the Germans and French to start putting pressure on Ukraine to strike a deal. It's coming.


Come on. Everyone knows you can always count on the Germans to do the right thing.
Posted by McCorkleJonesGOAT
Member since Apr 2022
362 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:48 pm to
I'm sure someone with a Ukrainian flag in their bio is EXTREMELY objective. Some would say the most objective.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:51 pm to
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They think this brings stability to their society.


Russia has never worked well with weak central leadership. It’s invariably a disaster.

Yelstin is a good example of that, Russia was edging into failed state status by the end of his rule. Tsar Nicholas II is another, his weakness broke the country, and opened the door to the horrors of Bolshevik rule.
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