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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:21 am to JayDeerTay84
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:21 am to JayDeerTay84
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How many tanks, ships, planes, missiles can we buy for us with that instead?
A lot and we are doing just that with some of that money.
We aren’t dropping 40 million dollars in cash like Obama did in Iraq.
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Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:26 am to SOSFAN
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Well the solution sure as hell isn't to send billions to other countries.
It certainly isn’t to disengage from the world stage and self-isolate. When we see rogue nations such as North Korea and Russia threatening or actively attacking sovereign nations, it is definitely in our interests to assist their victims.
We practice democratic principles in this country and have for nearly 250 years. Most of the people of the world envy our stability and might. We have succeeded in Americanizing the majority of the countries of the world.
To back away and let the Russias of the world do what they want would tear all that down.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:27 am to SOSFAN
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are paying billions now for Americans to have homes, food, phones, and healthcare
Well the solution sure as hell isn't to send billions to other countries.
We are blessed to be able to do both.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 11:29 am
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:27 am to RLDSC FAN
This post has been taken over and now looks like the PoliBoard.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:29 am to aTmTexas Dillo
Putin’s pooters have invaded.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:32 am to doubleb
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We are blessed to be able to do both.
We’re not blessed, we’re borrowing money.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:38 am to TigerMan327
quote:You think exactly like the other geriatrics in the State Department and Department of Defense. Short-sided and linearly.
The yearly budget spent on US military ranges from 600-800 billion dollars yearly. 40 billion dollars to help weaken Russia seems like a drop in the bucket if it succeeds and ZERO US soldiers are harmed.
Even if Russia takes the southeastern portion of Ukraine and calls it a day they will have a severely weakened military going forward for the next decade.
Russia is going to have all of eastern and western Europe paying in Rubles in < 5 years. Goodbye USD hegemony and USD purchasing power. Demand for dollars is going to drop and so will the US standard of living along with it. This is a direct result of US financialization policies accelerating to terminal velocity in 1971. Since then US productivity has gone up 280% and US wages 23%, when they both used to increase in lockstep. The upside is that this sea change will force the US to start manufacturing most things in the US again, because the USD won't buy what it used to.
Russia already exceeds the US in % gold per capita and the Ruble is backed by gold. In the end this conflict gets Russia their pre-Bolshevik lands back in the arms of the Motherland (and the ability to buy more war toys) but its not the main event. The real outcome you rubes should be paying attention to is the emergence of 3 (possibly 4) accepted world currencies. Want to know why the Soros/Davos/WEF/Bilderberg/Rothschild etc.. are all aping hard for Ukraine? Take a guess.
All brought to you by elected and corrupted US officials, and Depts of State and Defense, along with multiple three letter agencies. Slava Ukraini indeed.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:38 am to LSUPilot07
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40 billion to set the Russian army and economy back for years upon years.
The Russian armed forces will learn a lot from the war. They’ll have a new generation of leaders with combat experience. And the war will shape their weapons development programs. It’s an invaluable opportunity.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 11:40 am
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:41 am to Philzilla2k
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We are blessed to be able to do both.
We’re not blessed, we’re borrowing money.
I borrowed money to buy my first car, my first house, and Ivwas blessed. Y
Borrowing money is a necessity sometimes.
But yes, I believe we as a country does spend more than we should. We have been blessed and we haven’t not paid it back.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:42 am to Lima Whiskey
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The Russian armed forces will learn a lot from the war. They’ll have a new generation of leaders with combat experience. And the war will shape their weapons development programs. It’s an invaluable opportunity.
Lol
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:50 am to alpinetiger
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Soros/Davos/WEF/Bilderberg/Rothschild etc..
Conspiracy folks are getting worse than the LGBT folks when it comes to adding and adding and adding. A loon I can tolerate but this indecision is intolerable.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:50 am to sugar71
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He's still here trolling & moving goalposts with awful predictions for his Kremlin heros.
He's a piece of shite, is what he is. And he is terrible at debate.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:51 am to alpinetiger
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Russia is going to have all of eastern and western Europe paying in Rubles in < 5 years. Goodbye USD hegemony and USD purchasing power.
The Russian handlers must have given the directive to double the efforts on the OT.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:06 pm to TBoy
Can the poli board resurrect their lunatic thread so that the OT can get rid of these mindless pieces of shite who believe that allowing Russia to regain direct control over the former soviet satellite states in Eastern Europe is ACTUALLY GOOD FOR the USA. That believe that opposing the naked Russian aggression and invasion of a neighboring country is actually weakening the USA. That believe that the Ruble will overtake the DOLLAR on the national stage. That believe that exposing the Russian military as the old, hollowed-out shell of a fighting force that it is is bad for the USA. That support the Oligarchs that are so corrupt they cause this to happen. That claim that somehow, Ukraine is more corrupt than Russia 
and that is somehow justification for allowing Putin to reform the USSR.
Some of you are straight-up traitorous bastards.
and that is somehow justification for allowing Putin to reform the USSR. Some of you are straight-up traitorous bastards.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:11 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
Wow. I head out to the mountains for the weekend and the Putin fanboys flood the thread.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:13 pm to alpinetiger
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Russia is going to have all of eastern and western Europe paying in Rubles in < 5 years.
LOL
Dumbass post of the day.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:35 pm to TBoy
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Incompetent or not, Russia is on the march, invading other countries. And your response is to dismantle defenses? You are either profoundly dim or a Russian bot.
Russia is incompetent, as so breathlessly reported by you fanboys every time a Russian helicopter or tank is zipped. You guys have been telling us for weeks now Russia has burned through the majority of their smart weapons. They're supposedly dusting off T62s they're hurting so badly. Oh, let's not forget the glorious Ukrainian offensive we've been assured is going to have the Russkies running for home.
So, which is it? Is it your contention that Russia will be steamrolling through the Fulda Gap next week and all of y'all's cheerleading about Ukrainian success a bunch of bullshite? Or has Russia bitten off way more than they can chew, have wrecked their armed forces for decades and shown themselves to be barely a regional threat? It has to be one or the other.
Of course we should be withdrawing from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. There is no threat to western Europe that they can't handle themselves. Do a little comparison of NATO countries population, GDP, manufacturing capacity and militaries minus the USA and say with a straight face Russia is an existential threat to the US.
Otherwise, you must be Mitt Romney or John Kerry's kid or a Ukrainian bit. (See how easy and stupid those cheap accusations are?)
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:41 pm to Centinel
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Wow. I head out to the mountains for the weekend and the Putin fanboys flood the thread.
Expect nothing less from Lima Whiskey.
SDV is still banned
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:49 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
Couple of pieces on Kherson:
Ukrainians launching an offensive in the south toward Kherson
Forbes
“Ukrainian army formations supported by American-made M-777 howitzers crossed the Inhulets River around the town of Davydiv Brid, 50 miles northeast of Kherson. The Russians fell back to a trio of towns a few miles to the southwest. Towns whose defenses the Ukrainian general staff described as “unfavorable.”“
Meanwhile some question the decision to largely let Kherson fall without a defense:
Al Jazeera
“The Syvash, or the Rotten Sea, is what really divides Crimea from mainland Ukraine.
It is a labyrinth of lagoons, salt marshes, wetlands and quagmires with only three strips of land wide and firm enough for the roads that link the peninsula with the southern Ukrainian region of Kherson.”
Ukrainians launching an offensive in the south toward Kherson
Forbes
“Ukrainian army formations supported by American-made M-777 howitzers crossed the Inhulets River around the town of Davydiv Brid, 50 miles northeast of Kherson. The Russians fell back to a trio of towns a few miles to the southwest. Towns whose defenses the Ukrainian general staff described as “unfavorable.”“
Meanwhile some question the decision to largely let Kherson fall without a defense:
Al Jazeera
“The Syvash, or the Rotten Sea, is what really divides Crimea from mainland Ukraine.
It is a labyrinth of lagoons, salt marshes, wetlands and quagmires with only three strips of land wide and firm enough for the roads that link the peninsula with the southern Ukrainian region of Kherson.”
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:50 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Can the poli board resurrect their lunatic thread so that the OT can get rid of these mindless pieces of shite who believe that allowing Russia to regain direct control over the former soviet satellite states in Eastern Europe is ACTUALLY GOOD FOR the USA. That believe that opposing the naked Russian aggression and invasion of a neighboring country is actually weakening the USA. That believe that the Ruble will overtake the DOLLAR on the national stage. That believe that exposing the Russian military as the old, hollowed-out shell of a fighting force that it is is bad for the USA. That support the Oligarchs that are so corrupt they cause this to happen. That claim that somehow, Ukraine is more corrupt than Russia and that is somehow justification for allowing Putin to reform the USSR.
Sorry, when I saw this extremely rare sight of bipartisanship unity happen with this 40 billion dollar bullshvt, I completely lost all support for the ukies. This war isn’t about defending Ukraine, it’s about defending corrupt politicians pocket books. If y’all really cared about Ukraine then NATO would be sending boots on the ground and initiating no fly zones like Zolomsky kept crying for. I hear how crappy and incompetent Russia is on the battlefield, but we are too scared to send our superior army over there. To make matters much worse, your fricking President military threatened fricking China, so why are we capable of fighting China but not Russia?!? You cannot go and tell me how crappy Russia is then be scared of fighting them when the USA or EU alone outmatch them in resources, military capability, population, and GDP.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 12:54 pm
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