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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:46 am to nitwit
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:46 am to nitwit
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The Bayraktar drone that has been so successful was engineered in large part by a young MIT graduate who is a native of Turkey and is Erdogon's son in law. He also triangulated around US technology export laws to pack the drone with deadly features.
Turkey has also been partnering with Ukraine on technology partnerships for years. The Ukrainian Bayrakters were designed or atleast modified to use Ukrainian made missiles.
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:07 pm to ned nederlander
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Here is a map showing the situation in Ukraine as of 00:00 05/26/2022. It will help put in perspective how well the Ukrainians have defended against the Russians. The Russians have gone from
wanting regime change and control of the country in February => control of eastern Ukraine (the area east of the Dnieper river) in March => control of the Donbas (the area defined by the dashed red line) => capturing Severodonetsk and the Luhansk oblast in May.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:12 pm to WeeWee
“In the last week, statements by officials in Kyiv have become more alarming, as if Ukraine’s leadership is preparing the nation for a major defeat in the Donbas. Meduza summarizes remarks by Zelensky, Arestovych, Marochko, Skibitsky, and Kuzyk.”
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This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:15 pm to Stidham8
Presidential adviser Oleksiy Arestovych has described the course of the war even more grimly, warning that the Russian military has outpaced Ukraine’s Armed Forces. “The Russian side managed to build up its reserves sooner,” he told Mark Feygin in a YouTube broadcast on May 25, detailing Russia’s apparent plans to create “a new Mariupol” by encircling Ukraine’s troops in the Donbas:
“They’re trying to break through here, from Vrubivka, and to cut off the road in the area of Berestove. That’s one of the main goals — to disrupt the supply links between Bakhmut and Lysychansk. If you look at Siversk, you’ll see a little ‘pocket’ along the railway that they’re trying to close, from Siversk to Berestove. So, there’s a little ‘pocket’ forming, which Yampil, Siversk, Popasna, Vrubivka… And they’re closing it, and Lysychansk and Severodonetsk remain surrounded. That’s their main goal right now — to create a ‘new Mariupol.’
“Continuous artillery and air strikes, almost nonstop ground attacks by the enemy. They have superiority in artillery and aviation. To put it mildly, we’re barely afloat.”
“They’re trying to break through here, from Vrubivka, and to cut off the road in the area of Berestove. That’s one of the main goals — to disrupt the supply links between Bakhmut and Lysychansk. If you look at Siversk, you’ll see a little ‘pocket’ along the railway that they’re trying to close, from Siversk to Berestove. So, there’s a little ‘pocket’ forming, which Yampil, Siversk, Popasna, Vrubivka… And they’re closing it, and Lysychansk and Severodonetsk remain surrounded. That’s their main goal right now — to create a ‘new Mariupol.’
“Continuous artillery and air strikes, almost nonstop ground attacks by the enemy. They have superiority in artillery and aviation. To put it mildly, we’re barely afloat.”
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:17 pm to DabosDynasty
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However the Ukrainians do have a plan to invade Russia and take Belgorod. The plan is still on the table, but they learned from Russia’s mistake. If the Ukrainians invade Russia the plan calls for at least 500,000 troops . I hope they fricking do it
My sauce(s) did tell me that the plan is on the table, but they would act on it if Russia expands the war and NATO is drawn in and if they have NATO air cover, or if Russia nukes Ukraine. In either case, they would launch an invasion of Russia within hours and they would not stop at Belgorod.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:20 pm to WeeWee
quote:Of course, as we all know, this would be Putin's dream event. An invasion of Russia would solve his two biggest problems. It would allow full mobilization with no civilian blowback and destroy the coalition supporting the sanctions.
However the Ukrainians do have a plan to invade Russia and take Belgorod. The plan is still on the table, but they learned from Russia’s mistake.
The Ukrainians know this very well and besides, if their main goal right now is to kill Russians, they don't need to cross the border. Putin is delivering them as fast as he can. Plus, as far as attacking Russia itself, the Ukrainians are already doing this as well. As of Tuesday, there have been 112+ fires, explosions and sabotage events inside Russia. So yeah, Kyiv has no reason to take the party to Belgorod. They're not stupid.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:20 pm to WeeWee
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My sauce(s) did tell me that the plan is on the table, but they would act on it if Russia expands the war and NATO is drawn in and if they have NATO air cover, or if Russia nukes Ukraine. In either case, they would launch an invasion of Russia within hours and they would not stop at Belgorod.
That’s 100% laughable. They’re getting destroyed in Donbas. There’s no inkling of a plan to invade Russia.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:24 pm to Stidham8
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That’s 100% laughable. They’re getting destroyed in Donbas. There’s no inkling of a plan to invade Russia.
In all due respect to everyone here, if anyone inside the inner circle in the Ukraine is giving a poster here legitimate intell then I would be shocked. I don’t believe it.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 1:20 pm to Stidham8
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That’s 100% laughable. They’re getting destroyed in Donbas. There’s no inkling of a plan to invade Russia.
Remember when General Lee did this in this scenario? This war was over when Putin decided to take the war east away from Kiev. Since Zelensky is a paid Wall Street puppet to fight to the death, expect a power struggle soon.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 1:23 pm to Palmetto98
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:16 pm to WeeWee
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It’s all due to internal politics. Bennet’s coalition lost its majority last week and if it looses any more MPs it could trigger snap elections. The Israeli arab MPs are part of the coalition and are friendly to Russia.
I guess that’s one downfall to a parliamentary system.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:00 pm to doubleb
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That’s 100% laughable. They’re getting destroyed in Donbas. There’s no inkling of a plan to invade Russia.
In all due respect to everyone here, if anyone inside the inner circle in the Ukraine is giving a poster here legitimate intell then I would be shocked. I don’t believe it.
My sauce(s) are not in the inner circle and everything they have told me they have also told to Ukrainian and western journalists, bloggers, etc.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:13 pm to Stidham8
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That’s 100% laughable. They’re getting destroyed in Donbas. There’s no inkling of a plan to invade Russia.
1. The Ukrainians are not getting destroyed in the Donbas.
2. The Ukrainians are killing 5 Russians for every 1 Ukrainian killed. The Russians are losing 10 tanks for every Ukrainian tank lost.
3. The Russians have given up on conquering the Donbas in order to try and capture Severodonetsk.
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Stidham8
You need to learn how to read distance on maps as well as learn military tactics, and learn how to understand loss ratios. On average, Russia is suffering the loss of over 1000 soldiers killed, wounded, or captured, and over 10 tanks lost per day of combat. They can't sustain that.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:23 pm to Palmetto98
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Remember when General Lee did this in this scenario?
Are you talking about Lee's invasion of Maryland in '62 or Lee's invasion of Pennsylvania in '63?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:42 pm to WeeWee
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Are you talking about Lee's invasion of Maryland in '62 or Lee's invasion of Pennsylvania in '63?
He doesn't know.........
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:45 pm to WeeWee
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My sauce(s) are not in the inner circle and everything they have told me they have also told to Ukrainian and western journalists, bloggers, etc.
I do not doubt you have sources. It’s like you just said, they are feeding you stuff they want out there. I seriously doubt these are there true plans. It’s just propaganda.
And no doubt Russia is doing the same things.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:52 pm to doubleb
TBH there's no such thing as a secret plan anymore. Common sense tells you your enemy's most likely course of action and he can't hide from satellites. It's a matter of having the resources to stop him. Russia can't accomplish its offensive goals and still defend Melitopol. Ukraine can't mount an all out defense of Donbas while building up the kind of mobile striking force they need to start taking back the occupied areas. Everybody has to compromise somewhere.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:21 pm to doubleb
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I do not doubt you have sources. It’s like you just said, they are feeding you stuff they want out there.
Oh no doubt. However, just because they want it out there doesn’t mean it’s not true. Ukraine is most definitely planning a major offensive to push Russia back past the pre invasion demarcation line this summer when their strength increases.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:30 pm to WeeWee
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Are you talking about Lee's invasion of Maryland in '62 or Lee's invasion of Pennsylvania in '63?
Referring to Gettysburg but uses Lee because I assume most of y’all are confederate nuts. You want a better scenario? The lesson here is that it’s never a good idea lol.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:42 pm to RLDSC FAN
No selling out to Russia at Ukraine’s territorial cost – Zelensky address, 25 May 2022
No matter what the Russian state does, there is always someone who says: let’s take its interests into account. This year in Davos it was heard again. Despite thousands of Russian missiles hitting Ukraine. Despite tens of thousands of Ukrainians killed. Despite Bucha and Mariupol, etc. Despite the destroyed cities. And despite the “filtration camps” built by the Russian state, in which they kill, torture, rape and humiliate like on a conveyor belt. Russia has done all this in Europe.
But still in Davos, for example, Mr. Kissinger emerges from the deep past and says that a piece of Ukraine should be given to Russia. So that there is no alienation of Russia from Europe.
It seems that Mr. Kissinger’s calendar is not 2022, but 1938, and he thought he was talking to an audience not in Davos, but in Munich of that time.
By the way, in the real year 1938, when Mr. Kissinger’s family was fleeing Nazi Germany, he was 15 years old, and he understood everything perfectly. And nobody heard from him then that it was necessary to adapt to the Nazis instead of fleeing them or fighting them.
Full speech -
Kyiv Post
No matter what the Russian state does, there is always someone who says: let’s take its interests into account. This year in Davos it was heard again. Despite thousands of Russian missiles hitting Ukraine. Despite tens of thousands of Ukrainians killed. Despite Bucha and Mariupol, etc. Despite the destroyed cities. And despite the “filtration camps” built by the Russian state, in which they kill, torture, rape and humiliate like on a conveyor belt. Russia has done all this in Europe.
But still in Davos, for example, Mr. Kissinger emerges from the deep past and says that a piece of Ukraine should be given to Russia. So that there is no alienation of Russia from Europe.
It seems that Mr. Kissinger’s calendar is not 2022, but 1938, and he thought he was talking to an audience not in Davos, but in Munich of that time.
By the way, in the real year 1938, when Mr. Kissinger’s family was fleeing Nazi Germany, he was 15 years old, and he understood everything perfectly. And nobody heard from him then that it was necessary to adapt to the Nazis instead of fleeing them or fighting them.
Full speech -
Kyiv Post
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