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Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:49 pm to cypher
In Davos, Ukraine says it ‘badly’ needs rocket systems
“The battle for Donbas is very much like the battles of the Second World War,” Kuleba told journalists following talks with a slew of government officials and business leaders.
“Some villages and towns, they do not exist anymore,” he said.
“They were all turned into rubble by Russian artillery fire, by Russian multiple launch rocket systems. It’s devastating.”
Russia overwhelms Ukraine in a number of heavy weapons, but the biggest imbalance is with MLRS, mobile batteries of long-range rockets, he added.
Kyiv Post
“The battle for Donbas is very much like the battles of the Second World War,” Kuleba told journalists following talks with a slew of government officials and business leaders.
“Some villages and towns, they do not exist anymore,” he said.
“They were all turned into rubble by Russian artillery fire, by Russian multiple launch rocket systems. It’s devastating.”
Russia overwhelms Ukraine in a number of heavy weapons, but the biggest imbalance is with MLRS, mobile batteries of long-range rockets, he added.
Kyiv Post
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:08 pm to Palmetto98
You are nothing but a Putin loving scumbag.
You Bolshevik dog.
Frick you.
You Bolshevik dog.
Frick you.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:13 pm to Palmetto98
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Referring to Gettysburg but uses Lee because I assume most of y’all are confederate nuts. You want a better scenario? The lesson here is that it’s never a good idea lol.
Lee's decision to invade Pennsylvania was a brilliant strategic move if he could have pulled it out. It was decisions Lee made during the campaign (i.e. not breaking off combat after the 1st day at Gettysburg) that doomed the campaign. If Lee had listened to Longstreet and broken off combat he could have found ground that would have put him in between the Army of the Potomac and Washington, and it would have been ground that would have given him the advantage. Newt Gingrich wrote a great alternative history book about it (if you have time read it is really intriguing book that is well researched and very plausible, but do not waste your time on the third book in the series because it is so out of touch with reality and Gingrich just mailed in the ending. Even people that are happy with which side wins agree that the ending is terrible writing).
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I do not know if you realize this or not, but Russia is the one who is currently following Lee's playbooks from the the third days of the Battle of Gettysburg. Russia is throwing troops into Lyman in mass waves to capture the objective but the Ukrainians hold the high ground and that is why Russia has suffered over 5,000 KIA this week in Lyman.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:16 pm to cypher
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In Davos, Ukraine says it ‘badly’ needs rocket systems
“The battle for Donbas is very much like the battles of the Second World War,” Kuleba told journalists following talks with a slew of government officials and business leaders.
“Some villages and towns, they do not exist anymore,” he said.
“They were all turned into rubble by Russian artillery fire, by Russian multiple launch rocket systems. It’s devastating.”
Russia overwhelms Ukraine in a number of heavy weapons, but the biggest imbalance is with MLRS, mobile batteries of long-range rockets, he added.
However, ruined towns and villages make for excellent killing fields for a defender.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:21 pm to cypher
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No selling out to Russia at Ukraine’s territorial cost – Zelensky address, 25 May 2022
No matter what the Russian state does, there is always someone who says: let’s take its interests into account. This year in Davos it was heard again. Despite thousands of Russian missiles hitting Ukraine. Despite tens of thousands of Ukrainians killed. Despite Bucha and Mariupol, etc. Despite the destroyed cities. And despite the “filtration camps” built by the Russian state, in which they kill, torture, rape and humiliate like on a conveyor belt. Russia has done all this in Europe.
But still in Davos, for example, Mr. Kissinger emerges from the deep past and says that a piece of Ukraine should be given to Russia. So that there is no alienation of Russia from Europe.
It seems that Mr. Kissinger’s calendar is not 2022, but 1938, and he thought he was talking to an audience not in Davos, but in Munich of that time.
By the way, in the real year 1938, when Mr. Kissinger’s family was fleeing Nazi Germany, he was 15 years old, and he understood everything perfectly. And nobody heard from him then that it was necessary to adapt to the Nazis instead of fleeing them or fighting them.
Dudes got balls. And I have no idea how Kissinger’s thought could be valid save for a Russian slant. Why would you suggest that at all as though A) it’s in ukraines best interest and B) Russia is not already alienated from Europe after this and C) why it really matters when we’re on course to set Russia back 50 years?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:27 pm to WeeWee
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However, ruined towns and villages make for excellent killing fields for a defender.
Even more so if the defenders had HIMARS.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:30 pm to WeeWee
Remember Stalingrad? The Germans bombed it into rubble which was the worst possible thing they could do because they had Russians behind all the destruction slowly wearing the Germans down with casualties. That’s what the Ukrainians will have to do because no matter how much aid is sent into the country they will more than likely still be at a disadvantage in artillery. If they are willing to accept M60 tanks instead of Abrams tanks then you’d think we still have a nice stockpile of M60’s in storage that we will never use again. If the Russians are resorting to breaking out their old T-62’s then the M60 is capable of going up against it. If nothing else it’s mobile artillery.
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:32 pm to cypher
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“They were all turned into rubble by Russian artillery fire, by Russian multiple launch rocket systems. It’s devastating.”
I wish we could lose a few dozen M142s off the back of a truck and Ukraine could find them.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:35 pm to Obtuse1
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I wish we could lose a few dozen M142s off the back of a truck and Ukraine could find them.
Combat loss
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:38 pm to WeeWee
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Oh no doubt. However, just because they want it out there doesn’t mean it’s not true. Ukraine is most definitely planning a major offensive to push Russia back past the pre invasion demarcation line this summer when their strength increases.
I have no doubt that’s true. But where? We all know they aren’t going to telegraph where. Keep ‘em guessing.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:45 pm to WeeWee
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ruined towns and villages make for excellent killing fields for a defender.
Monte Cassino comes to mind.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:51 pm to Lakeboy7
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Combat loss
If I had to fill out the FLIPL I was just put "oops" and leave it at that.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:52 pm to Obtuse1
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FLIPL
"Top, those At4s were in the back I swear, now they gone"
Combat loss
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:56 pm to cypher
Latest DoD Briefing neither commits to , nor rules out , HIMARS in next assistance package.
On the -- on the security assistance side, I know all of you are going to ask me about the next PDA, PDA 11. No final decisions have been made about PDA 11 either in terms of what it's going to include and when it's going to be announced. So I just want to get ahead of that one right now, and I know that you'll ask me about the potential for HIMARS being in there. I'm not going to talk about the -- what the potential content of PDA 11's going to look like. You know, when it's decided, it's decided, and then we'll -- and then we'll speak to it.
Senior Defense Official Holds a Background Briefing May 26, 2022
On the -- on the security assistance side, I know all of you are going to ask me about the next PDA, PDA 11. No final decisions have been made about PDA 11 either in terms of what it's going to include and when it's going to be announced. So I just want to get ahead of that one right now, and I know that you'll ask me about the potential for HIMARS being in there. I'm not going to talk about the -- what the potential content of PDA 11's going to look like. You know, when it's decided, it's decided, and then we'll -- and then we'll speak to it.
Senior Defense Official Holds a Background Briefing May 26, 2022
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:59 pm to doubleb
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Oh no doubt. However, just because they want it out there doesn’t mean it’s not true. Ukraine is most definitely planning a major offensive to push Russia back past the pre invasion demarcation line this summer when their strength increases.
I have no doubt that’s true. But where? We all know they aren’t going to telegraph where. Keep ‘em guessing.
Like I said earlier, I expect the Ukrainians are to come storming out of Dnipro and head towards Melitopol since the Russians have only have 2 motorized brigades and it is the key to controlling the land bridge to Crimea.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:03 pm to cypher
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However, ruined towns and villages make for excellent killing fields for a defender.
Even more so if the defenders had HIMARS.
No doubt, but the Ukrainians don't know how to operate them. The Ukrainians need to borrow Poland's BM21s and the BM-21s that are in storage in Germany.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:03 pm to cypher
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Latest DoD Briefing neither commits to , nor rules out , HIMARS in next assistance package.
The M148 can reach out and touch something 150+ MILES downrange.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:08 pm to DabosDynasty
Kissinger sold out South Vietnam to the North Vietmanese communists. Why wouldn't he sell out Ukraine to the Russian communists?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:14 pm to Obtuse1
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Latest DoD Briefing neither commits to , nor rules out , HIMARS in next assistance package.
The M148 can reach out and touch something 150+ MILES downrange.
Maybe we don't need the Ukrainians to have those. They might decide to reach out and touch something inside Russia. Spetznaz raids into Russia are one thing but bombardment is likely to get Kyiv turned into glass which would suck because the hottest woman I have ever met IRL9.99999 and OT 9.7 just moved back to Kyiv.
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