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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:16 pm to
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Kissinger sold out South Vietnam to the North Vietmanese communists. Why wouldn't he sell out Ukraine to the Russian communists?



Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:33 pm to
Hey, That US DOD Brief on Ukraine does not sound like anyone is "Getting their arse kicked" in Donbass
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:42 pm to
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Maybe we don't need the Ukrainians to have those. T


I think the DoD and State Dept are having that debate. All I know is that Russia has admitted to using Kalibr missiles with a much longer range against Odessa.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 6:43 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45779 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:53 pm to
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Hey, That US DOD Brief on Ukraine does not sound like anyone is "Getting their arse kicked" in Donbass



Are you suggesting that the pro-Russian leaning posters and the posters who know nothing about Ukraine and Russia would post something that is not govorit' pravdu, vsyu pravdu i nichego, krome pravdy? I don't believe you! That would make them nekul'turnyy!
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:02 pm to
I wish Ukraine had the IDF’s iron dome defense system capabilities. Upon looking at some unclassified use cases the system is truly remarkable and positioned to save countless lives due to Israel’s close proximity to terrorist nations. Because a variation has modified some of the information the rogue missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is, however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and the defense guidance system knows where it was. The IDF system subtracts where it should be, from where it wasn't, or vice versa. By differentiating this from the algebraic sum og where it shouldn't be, and where it was. It is able to obtain a deviation, and a variation, which is called "air" at a millisecond rate.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:16 pm to
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Are you suggesting that the pro-Russian leaning posters and the posters who know nothing about Ukraine and Russia would post something that is not govorit' pravdu, vsyu pravdu i nichego, krome pravdy? I don't believe you! That would make them nekul'turnyy!
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10496 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:18 pm to
News coming out that Ukraine is losing major ground in Severodonetsk. Much of the city may be under Russian control.



This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:20 pm to
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it is not sure just where it is, however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and the defense guidance system knows where it was. The IDF system subtracts where it should be, from where it wasn't, or vice versa. By differentiating this from the algebraic sum og where it shouldn't be, and where it was. It is able to obtain a deviation, and a variation, which is called "air" at a millisecond rate.


Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:25 pm to
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News coming out that Ukraine is losing major ground in Severodonetsk. Much of the city may be under Russian control.


Maybe superior numbers for the invading Russian is finally tamping out the resistance. You said this would happen eventually. By the way, I hate Russians.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:25 pm to
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losing major ground in Severodonetsk


A couple blocks?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:27 pm to
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Maybe superior numbers for the invading Russian is finally tamping out the resistance.


Look at the map he posted. Severod has been nearly encircled for a while. It is a matter of time until the Ukes withdraw from that city.

Do yourself a favor and read the US DOD Brief posted a page ago.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 7:28 pm
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22872 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:28 pm to
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Stidham8

When was the last time you read a real, military map?

In what scenario would you use a 6 or 8 figure grid reference when calling in an artillery strike?
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10496 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:37 pm to
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Maybe superior numbers for the invading Russian is finally tamping out the resistance. You said this would happen eventually. By the way, I hate Russians.


Once Russia focused their efforts in one region they haven’t been stopped. Zelensky and other Ukrainian officials have been publicly sounding the alarm bells over the last week.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

Kissinger sold out South Vietnam to the North Vietmanese communists. Why wouldn't he sell out Ukraine to the Russian communists?


Kissinger is a bought and paid for Russian stoolie just like that former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder who works for Russia for $1 million/year. Money buys influence.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30744 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:40 pm to
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Because a variation has modified some of the information the rogue missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is, however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and the defense guidance system knows where it was. The IDF system subtracts where it should be, from where it wasn't, or vice versa. By differentiating this from the algebraic sum og where it shouldn't be, and where it was. It is able to obtain a deviation, and a variation, which is called "air" at a millisecond rate.



It should be called the Rumsfeld with its known knowns, known unknowns, and unknown unknowns.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:44 pm to
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News coming out that Ukraine is losing major ground in Severodonetsk. Much of the city may be under Russian control.


The heavy military equipment that the US is sending to Ukraine is arriving sporadically but where it is put into use it is having a telling effect on the Russians.

Even though the Ukies may have to give up some towns, it will be only temporary. They will soon have the ability to begin retaking towns and cities from the Russkys, starting with Kherson.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5996 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:49 pm to
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It should be called the Rumsfeld with its known knowns, known unknowns, and unknown unknowns.


Got to love a good Rumsfeld quote. As I kept telling USAA after Ida, you fix the roof with the roofer you have, not the roofer you wish you had.

Oh Rummy. Hopefully you were greeted as a liberator in that great foreign intervention in the sky.

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45779 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:50 pm to
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News coming out that Ukraine is losing major ground in Severodonetsk. Much of the city may be under Russian control.


Jesus H Christ man. Read the daily summary posted just above the map section you posted.

quote:

Russian forces have made steady, incremental gains in heavy fighting in eastern Ukraine in the past several days, though Ukrainian defenses remain effective overall. Deputy Ukrainian Defense Minister Hanna Malyar stated that the fighting is currently at its "maximum intensity” compared to previous Russian assaults and will likely continue to escalate.[1] Spokesperson for the Ukrainian Defense Ministry Oleksandr Motuzyanyk characterized Russian gains as “temporary success” and stated that Ukrainian forces are using a maneuver defense to put pressure on Russian advances in key areas.[2] Russian forces have now taken control of over 95% of Luhansk Oblast and will likely continue efforts to complete the capture of Severodonetsk in the coming days.[3] Russian forces have made several gains in the past week, but their offensive operations remain slow. Russian forces are heavily degraded and will struggle to replace further losses.


No where in there does it say that Ukraine has lost major ground or that Severodonetsk is under Russian control. Are you sure that you’re not confusing the city of Severodonetsk with the village of Svitlodarsk? Because the separatist did claim they captured the village of Svitlodarsk today.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10496 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:53 pm to
Read the bottom of the picture. ISW says they cannot confirm but colored the map yellow because some Russian outlets are claiming it.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45779 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:17 pm to
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Read the bottom of the picture.


It says Russia gained control of northern and eastern Severodonetsk which is not only not confirmed, but is not the same thing as gaining control of Severodonetsk like you claimed. In addition to learn how to read a map, you should learn how to read English.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 9:21 pm
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