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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:11 am to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:11 am to RLDSC FAN
M777 update
According to NYTimes link below only about a dozen are in use at this time.
But the American M777, known as the triple seven, is likely to have the greatest effect for the quantity of guns provided, providing accurate, long-range fire when sufficient crews are trained to use them, military analysts say.
The bottleneck is training. The United States has so far trained about 200 Ukrainian soldiers in six-day courses at bases in Germany. The Ukrainian military divided this group roughly in half, sending some to the front and others to train more Ukrainians. Training soldiers for all 90 guns — the amount that are scheduled to arrive — could take another several weeks.
Originally published by NYTimes
Yahoo News
According to NYTimes link below only about a dozen are in use at this time.
But the American M777, known as the triple seven, is likely to have the greatest effect for the quantity of guns provided, providing accurate, long-range fire when sufficient crews are trained to use them, military analysts say.
The bottleneck is training. The United States has so far trained about 200 Ukrainian soldiers in six-day courses at bases in Germany. The Ukrainian military divided this group roughly in half, sending some to the front and others to train more Ukrainians. Training soldiers for all 90 guns — the amount that are scheduled to arrive — could take another several weeks.
Originally published by NYTimes
Yahoo News
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:48 am to WeeWee
The prevailing wind blows to Russia or Belorussia if in the West. If Putin approves even tactical nukes, fallout will be over Russian soil
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:49 am to DabosDynasty
Where do you think the technology for those Turkish drones comes from? It was licensed to Turkey in 2008 by Israel
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:55 am to WeeWee
The former Warsaw Pact nations have been trying to sell their Soviet Era weapons to 3rd world and replenish with more modern but no takers. This is especially true with Poland which now has ordered M1A Abrams to replace those donated T-72's. The donation of its old BMP's is after making its own personnel carriers.
Then again, Russia is calling up its T-62's which its reservists use for training.
Then again, Russia is calling up its T-62's which its reservists use for training.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:59 am to CitizenK
Not all nukes carry the fallout risk. Just depends on the device.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:15 am to WeeWee
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I just finished speaking to one of my sauce(s) in Ukraine. Per my sauce(s) in Ukraine. It’s been a hell of a fight in Lyman. Russia is slowly taking the town by resorting to the old Soviet tactic of launching human wave attacks just to gain a block or two of real estate. My sauce(s) estimated that Russia has suffered around 5,000 KIA in the Battle of Lyman this week. Ukraine has suffered roughly 1500 KIA this week. My sauce(s) were not sure of the loses in the Popasna breakout, said they were much less than Lyman. According to my sauce(s) Lyman is already very bloody and it’s going to get worse. Perhaps bloodier than Mariupol or Holostomel airport.
However, it’s nothings like what they Ukrainians have prepared for the Russians in Severodonetsk. My sauce(s) in Ukraine straight up said that they didn’t really care if lose the city. Their goal is to hold Russia up for two weeks and inflict a minimum of 15,000 Russians KIA. If they can do that then they believe they will have exhausted the Russian combat reserves.
Meanwhile the Ukrainians are resting, regrouping, rearming, and reorganizing for a big counterattack in a direction that nobody here has talked about. Obviously, my sauce(s) didn’t tell me what it was, but I jokingly asked if Ukraine was going send a few hundred thousand troops into Russia. My sauce(s) laughed and said no. However the Ukrainians do have a plan to invade Russia and take Belgorod. The plan is still on the table, but they learned from Russia’s mistake. If the Ukrainians invade Russia the plan calls for at least 500,000 troops .
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However the Ukrainians do have a plan to invade Russia and take Belgorod. The plan is still on the table, but they learned from Russia’s mistake. If the Ukrainians invade Russia the plan calls for at least 500,000 troops .
I hope they fricking do it
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:17 am to StormyMcMan
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Think they have some dealings with the Russians in Syria so they don't want to upset either the US or Russia
Fair enough I guess, but the Israelis would BTFO the Russians based on what we’ve seen.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:19 am to Abstract Queso Dip
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Not all nukes carry the fallout risk. Just depends on the device.
Why are you guys discussing nukes?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:31 am to cypher
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“I’m surprised people believe Ukrainian forces can absorb this level of losses and then be ready to go on the offensive right afterward,” said Kofman, the analyst.
This is an interesting quote from the article. I too wonder about Ukraine’s ability to take heavy blows all though the summer and come out swinging in August.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:51 am to TigersnJeeps
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Just curious, were you in contact your sauce(s) prior to the invasion when Ukraine was saying Russia wouldn't invade while the US was saying they would? I just thought it was interesting that Ukraine intel apparently missed that (at least publicly).
Per my sauce(s), the intelligence people in Ukraine thought it was possible but they were not certain. The political leadership told them to down play the threat of invasion to keep the people from panicking. However, at the same time they started a limited mobilization of reserves and started training civilians to form the Ukrainian Territorial Defense Force. So I would say that it was more of the political leadership downplaying the risk than the intelligence people missing it.
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Hoping their performance has improved since then... esp since alot of what they say is repeated in the West as truth
All these generals are not just accidentally being killed. The Ukrainian spetsnaz have a kill list provided by Ukrainian intelligence and they are killing multiple generals per week. So I would say that their performance has improved or atleast the political leaders have allowed the gloves to be taken off.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:53 am to WeeWee
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atleast the political leaders have allowed the gloves to be taken off.
The gloves were on?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:57 am to Athanatos
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This is an interesting quote from the article. I too wonder about Ukraine’s ability to take heavy blows all though the summer and come out swinging in August.
Ukraine will have finished training the reserves it has already called up by mid July. That will increase their forces by 500,000. Per my sauce(s), Ukraine is preparing for another round of mobilization for an additional 500,000 to 1,000,000 troops to start training in June. Their goal is to have 1,000,000 to 1,500,000 troops ready for combat when the fall Rasputitsa (mud season) ends.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:00 am to StormyMcMan
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The gloves were on?
The gloves were on until Putin recognized the LPR and DPR. Russia’s top military leaders visited the separatist regions in late January and Ukrainian intelligence had their itinerary. Zelenski would not approve a Spetznaz mission to kill them at that time.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 10:11 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:10 am to ned nederlander
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quote: The plan is still on the table, but they learned from Russia’s mistake. If the Ukrainians invade Russia the plan calls for at least 500,000 troops. As someone strongly rooting for Ukraine, doing this would be a disaster for Ukraine on so many different fronts.
I agree and so did my sauce(s). However, they do have plan(s) to invade Russia if needed.
I am just speculating here and have no
inside knowledge to confirm or deny it, but I am willing to bet Ukraine launches a major offensive out of Dnipro to capture Melitopol. Per militaryland.net the Russians only have two divisions in that entire oblast and Melitopol is the key to the entire land bridge to Crimea.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:17 am to cypher
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Russian forces are continuing to conduct aerial reconnaissance to identify Ukrainian positions and countermeasures along the coastline of the Odesa and Mykolaiv regions. originally published by Ukrayinska Pravda
It’s a terrible time of year to try and invade the Mykolaiv or Odessa oblasts. That area of the country is very similar to south Louisiana and south Texas. The area is very marshy and it would suck armor up like the fields around Kyiv and Kharkiv did. The best time to attack Odessa is in the late summer or fall since that part of the country doesn’t experience much of a fall Rasputitsa.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:22 am to DabosDynasty
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Fair enough I guess, but the Israelis would BTFO the Russians based on what we’ve seen.
It’s all due to internal politics. Bennet’s coalition lost its majority last week and if it looses any more MPs it could trigger snap elections. The Israeli arab MPs are part of the coalition and are friendly to Russia.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:32 am to Centinel
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I spent two years working with the IDF, to include spending over a month's time in total in Israel. They don't need us
I wish that went into their FP, where their whole ME project literally requires US troops in order to succeed. The IDF is built for defensive campaigns. But Likud and others on the Israeli right want something which they aren't willing to risk Israeli lives for, which are several buffer states in order to retain strategic depth. They have hemmed themselves in to idiotic foreign policy maneuvers, much like the KSA has.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:44 am to CitizenK
It is accurate that Turkey acquired drone technology from Israel back in about 2010, but this was for the Heron systems.
The Bayraktar drone that has been so successful was engineered in large part by a young MIT graduate who is a native of Turkey and is Erdogon's son in law. He also triangulated around US technology export laws to pack the drone with deadly features. If i have misunderstood this sourcing of the drone technology, i ask that soneone more knowledgeable correct me.
The Bayraktar drone that has been so successful was engineered in large part by a young MIT graduate who is a native of Turkey and is Erdogon's son in law. He also triangulated around US technology export laws to pack the drone with deadly features. If i have misunderstood this sourcing of the drone technology, i ask that soneone more knowledgeable correct me.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:02 am to WeeWee
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The best time to attack Odessa is in the late summer or fall
If the Ukrainians don’t have the weapons to make such an attack be a suicide mission for any Russians ships and aircraft that approach the entire western world should hang its head in shame.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:42 am to ned nederlander
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If the Ukrainians don’t have the weapons to make such an attack be a suicide mission for any Russians ships and aircraft that approach the entire western world should hang its head in shame.
I was referring to trying to attack Odessa by land.
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