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LA Times: Is California government considering oil refinery takeovers? Yes, it is

Posted on 2/17/25 at 5:45 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29243 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 5:45 pm
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Russia. China. Venezuela. Iran. More than a dozen countries make gasoline at state-owned refineries.

Could California be next on the list?

California policymakers are considering state ownership of one or more oil refineries, one item on a list of options presented by the California Energy Commission to ensure steady gas supplies as oil companies pull back from the refinery business in the state.

“The state recognizes that they’re on a pathway to more refinery closures,” said Skip York, chief energy strategist at energy consultant Turner Mason & Co. The risk to consumers and the state’s economy, he said, is gasoline supply disappearing faster than consumer demand, resulting in fuel shortages, higher prices and severe logistical challenges.


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Electric vehicles, including plug-in hybrids, now represent about 25% of annual new car sales. By state mandate, new sales of gasoline cars and light trucks will be banned starting in model year 2035.

The drop in demand is causing fundamental strategic shifts among the state’s major oil refiners: Chevron, Marathon, Phillips 66, PBF Energy and Valero.

Already, two California refineries have ceased producing gasoline to make biodiesel fuel for use in heavy-duty trucks, a cleaner-fuel alternative that enjoys rich state subsidies. More worrisome, the Phillips 66 refinery complex in Wilmington, just outside Los Angeles, plans to close down permanently by year’s end.


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A state refinery takeover seems like a radical idea, but the fact that it’s being considered demonstrates the seriousness of the supply issue.

It’s one of several options laid out by the California Energy Commission, which is fulfilling a legislative order to find ways to ensure “a reliable supply of affordable and safe transportation fuels in California.”

The options list is disparate: Ship in more gasoline from Asia; regulate refineries on the order of electric utilities; cap profit margins; and many more.


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California is run by a bunch a politburo wannabees.
Posted by Fencepimp
Brusly
Member since Jun 2022
1178 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:02 pm to
Where is the perfect earthquake when we need it?
Posted by Tygerfan
Member since Jan 2004
33880 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:02 pm to
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By state mandate, new sales of gasoline cars and light trucks will be banned starting in model year 2035.


Best thing one can do is open a car dealership on the Nevada side of the Nevada/California border.
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 6:03 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156636 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:07 pm to
So the state that very publicly poorly handles and controls its infrastructure now wants to take over O&G?

What could fricking possibly go wrong?

As always, every week California tries to out-California itself. And every week it wins.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29243 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:10 pm to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42308 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:21 pm to
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Russia. China. Venezuela. Iran.


Exactly who I’d want to emulate as bastions of progressive government.
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
2319 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:31 pm to
LOL they don't even consider that one option is to rollback the insane laws they passed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:31 pm to
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So the state that very publicly poorly handles and controls its infrastructure now wants to take over O&G?


Idealism can get very expensive. It seems these utopians are willing to sacrifice the middle class for their egalitarian idealism. Getting anything accomplished at a California owned refinery would probably take a decade for environmental approvals.
Posted by 33inNC
Charlotte, NC
Member since Mar 2011
6352 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:32 pm to
I want them to answer why. WTF is wrong with these frickers? Yea, let's follow that great list of "successful" and human rights driven countries!
Posted by Camijoe
Member since May 2024
464 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:46 pm to
Would it be acceptable if they purchased a refinery?
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2566 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:56 pm to
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Would it be acceptable if they purchased a refinery?


Will they operate them with the same environmental restrictions that they impose on the current owners?
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19978 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:03 pm to
California night to get truck nuts

Well, Tesla nuts
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
4077 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:23 pm to
Can the asteroid that is heading this way be aimed? I'd take my chances with a ground strike in SoCal.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41084 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:54 pm to
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LOL they don't even consider that one option is to rollback the insane laws they passed.


That’s not why refineries are pulling out

They are pulling out because of the insane regulations environment in the Peoples Republic of CA
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:57 pm to
Government is great about trying to fix problems that Government creates
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
26412 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:01 pm to
I know where the next wall needs to be built.
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
3179 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:41 pm to
Genius 4d chess move on their part, now they can sue themselves for the global warming shite.

For a state that doesn’t want fossil fuels, taking over a refinery seems incredibly suspicious.
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1971 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:03 pm to
"Known to the state of cancer to cause California"

Should be a warning label applied to the entire state
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1161 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:06 pm to
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Electric vehicles, including plug-in hybrids, now represent about 25% of annual new car sales.


Ummm, really? More like 8.1% for BEVs and 2% more for PHEVs (which also require gasoline) in the US. Maybe that's CA only, but I even doubt that.
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
9284 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:10 pm to
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Will they operate them with the same environmental restrictions that they impose on the current owners?
Heck no. I would wager they would be the biggest environmental offenders. Plus, I would expect the work force to be the most accident prone in the industry.
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