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re: KY middle school teacher arrested for you already why

Posted on 8/11/26 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 7:51 pm to
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What does grooming mean in this context?


Kentucky just passed an anti-grooming law that became effective July 15th.

HB4 link

It defines grooming as:

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A person is guilty of grooming a minor when: (a) Being eighteen (18) years of age or older, he or she engages in grooming behavior directed at a minor who is under fourteen (14) years old with the intent to entice, coerce, solicit, or induce the minor to engage in sexual conduct with the person or another person;

or (b) Being a person in a position of authority or position of special trust, as those terms are defined in KRS 532.045, he or she engages in grooming behavior directed at a minor who is under eighteen (18) years old with the intent to: 1. Entice, coerce, solicit, or induce the minor to engage in sexual conduct with the person or another person; or 2. Develop an intimate or secretive relationship with the minor.


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"Grooming behavior" means a course of conduct directed at a minor that is intended to establish an emotional connection with a minor through manipulation, trust-building, or influence to: (a) Facilitate future acts of sexual conduct; or (b) Normalize or desensitize the minor to acts of sexual conduct; even if no in-person meeting or act of sexual conduct is completed. This conduct may occur online or in person, through third parties, or by other indirect methods to facilitate the manipulation of a minor;

Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14860 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 7:53 pm to
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Not guilty and needs an apology for the inconvenience.


Uh, it’s one thing to think she is kinda cute. But did you gloss over the “middle school” part?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:02 pm to
Come on OT. Need better pics.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:15 pm to
Interesting how the definitions define grooming as grooming.
Posted by jflsufan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2013
5302 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:21 pm to
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John Curtis isn’t in Kentucky.


Hey now, you must not turn 19 before September 1 and you can play.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
18028 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:30 pm to
That's actually really gross. Middle school is straight up pedophile stuff
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
14810 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 11:16 pm to
Ehhh, I’ve been giving out a lot of free passes lately. Lock this one up.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Baw Land
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 11:18 pm to
The jury is requesting additional evidence
Posted by Judnnc
Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 8/12/26 at 6:37 am to
So what is the prevailing theory about why this happens so often?
Posted by Matt225
St. George
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 8/12/26 at 6:52 am to
Sentenced to community service of "Adult" continues education volunteer.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 8/12/26 at 6:54 am to
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So what is the prevailing theory about why this happens so often?
Since there are about 4 million K-12 teachers in this country, it is still a very small number. Even if there were 500 cases per year, that would be 0.0125%
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
48255 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 7:13 am to
quote:

What does grooming mean in this context?


She sent texts to a student saying she loved them, admired, and was proud of them. She also had them meet her before school events. There was no touching and no pics of bobs and vagene sent.

Her FB is open. No pics are remarkable. Married in Dec of '22. it has always been visible that the wall was coming fast, and she would be a chunk, sooner than later. I bet she sweats a lot.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 8/12/26 at 7:17 am to
These cases are far more frequent than those of any church yet there’s never financial recompense for the families of these children.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
39269 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 7:24 am to
quote:

So what is the prevailing theory about why this happens so often?

The women never do hard time
Posted by FliesByNight
Whale, wail, well
Member since Apr 2026
607 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 7:25 am to
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There need to be greater age differentials between teachers and students. Like, 20 years minimum.


I agree in principle, but the supply of teachers just isn't enough to make this happen. I think what they could look into is a progressive climbing in grades as you age and gain experience. Make all teachers starts in early childhood ages and then you can move up as you gain experience. But, even doing that won't solve it all as there has been cases where the teacher is in their 40s and 50s and still doing this stuff.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
44410 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 7:44 am to
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These cases are far more frequent than those of any church yet there’s never financial recompense for the families of these children


The churches that paid the price were the ones that hid and covered it up. Schools rarely do that
Posted by Jenious
Member since Apr 2020
1078 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:26 am to
We had two 16 year olds back in 8th grade. They both turned out just how you would expect.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
20576 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:29 am to
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So what is the prevailing theory about why this happens so often?
of course the fact that these cases go nationwide thanks to current technology makes them seem more prevalent

but i also think in this case the victim is probably either a) a minority or 2) female

since those relationships are still considered taboo as far as traditional white middle class society is concerned, i tend to think that is why the perpetrators always seem to be white middle class women
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20875 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:35 am to
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with a middle schooler.


Was that stated?
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
48255 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 11:16 am to
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but i also think in this case the victim is probably either a) a minority or 2) female


I think female. There were some huggy pics on her FB with her hugging other women and young teens hugging each other. nothing painted a bad picture alone, but a vibe began to appear.
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