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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only

Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:20 am to
Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
282 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:20 am to
They have this neuroscience expert on the stand. No one is debating whether or not he had a head injury. He’s describing a traumatic brain injury. They don’t need the pathophysiology lesson of a subarachnoid hemorrhage/ subdural. I think this will be a problem for the CW on cross.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15074 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:33 am to
all 18 jurors are still present.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15074 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:52 am to
I think the purpose of this doctor to show that John didn’t die immediately after he received the head injury. The CW is trying to show Karen could have saved his life if she did hit him with her car to go more towards she intended for him to die.

Hank Brennan is dumb if he actually believes Karen did this.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12847 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 11:23 am to
quote:

The CW is trying to show Karen could have saved his life if she did hit him with her car to go more towards she intended for him to die.

Am I correct to assume that the 2nd degree murder charge kind of hinges on this?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:18 pm to
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John didn’t die immediately after he received the head injury.


Hos long to die in cold
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15074 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Am I correct to assume that the 2nd degree murder charge kind of hinges on this?


From my understanding 2nd degree is intent to kill someone. They have to show that she knowingly and purposely reversed the Lexus intending to hit and kill John. So it would be possible she did reverse the vehicle but not intend to kill John.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 12:28 pm
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6660 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

They have to show that she knowingly and purposely reversed the Lexus intending to hit and kill John.


meanwhile, Jen McCabe had looked out the window twice in 15 minutes and heard nothing and saw nothing. Heard no engine revving or tires skidding in the snow and did not hear a car hitting a human body or a person yell having been smashed by a car. Also did not notice a body lying in the light snow when she looked out the second time in 15 minutes and the car was gone.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122172 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:40 pm to
Who is this witness? She is kind of cute.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96980 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:00 pm to
Was thinking the same. Take her hair down and drop the nerdy glasses and she'd be like Laney Boggs



Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15074 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:05 pm to
It looks like the state has rested their case in chief!

The judge just ended court for today and no court tomorrow.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96980 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:07 pm to


Maybe I misunderstood the ending b/c the audio still blows, but didn't she say it would be a half day tomorrow?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15074 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

didn't she say it would be a half day tomorrow?


They were supposed to have a half day tomorrow but she gave them the day off.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122172 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:14 pm to
Well they get a nice little break.

How long do yall think is left in this trial?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15074 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:21 pm to
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How long do yall think is left in this trial?


The defense has said they expect their case to take a week and a half. So if the state is indeed resting their case, lets say the defense will take 2 weeks then the state will probably have a rebuttal case. Lets say a week for the rebuttal case and this case may be in the jury's hands by the middle of June.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15074 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:43 pm to
Well, Well, Well

Shanon Burgess' profile on Apertures website no longer list a degree from UAB and his CV and LinkedIn links are no longer on his profile either.

Aperture Website
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96980 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:55 pm to
How pathetic. Hope AJ brings that up in closing.

On another note, what is the board's take on the pieces/shards of glass found at the scene that don't match. Did glass just magically appear because the glass from the scene did not match the (alleged) piece of glass from the bumper.

LINK



Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
282 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 3:27 pm to
Was that not from the cocktail glass that he allegedly had in his hand ? I can’t keep up with all the random evidence that they pick and choose what to acknowledge.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80525 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 3:39 pm to
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meanwhile, Jen McCabe had looked out the window twice in 15 minutes and heard nothing and saw nothing. Heard no engine revving or tires skidding in the snow and did not hear a car hitting a human body or a person yell having been smashed by a car. Also did not notice a body lying in the light snow when she looked out the second time in 15 minutes and the car was gone.


She stated that she looked out at least 3 times, likely more.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18993 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 4:47 pm to
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It looks like the state has rested their case in chief!

Don’t they still have to call the witness back from yesterday?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15074 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 5:27 pm to
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Don’t they still have to call the witness back from yesterday?


She finished her testimony today.
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