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re: Justices rule LGBT people protected from job discrimination
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:56 am to fallguy_1978
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:56 am to fallguy_1978
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I actually don't think that you should be fired just for being gay.
If it’s illegal to fire someone for being black or Jewish, I don’t see why it should be legal to fire someone for being gay. Granted I am a libertarian where I think Title VII should be revoked and if any business is actually racist or sexist, then I’ll just go shop elsewhere. But I don’t see why sex should be a protected class and sexuality shouldn’t be as well.
With this being said, now gays are 100% equal in the eyes of the law, so the gay lobby can now shut the frick up.
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:57 am to stout
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I don't either but now the problem is if you fire a gay person because of poor performance you will potentially have to prove that was the real reason in court. It's just more of the Government interfering with a private business.
I'm a small government guy as well but it seems like that would be difficult to prove. I mean, any non white male on the planet that got fired could claim discrimination I suppose. The success rate of those cases has to be pretty low though.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:57 am to OMLandshark
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With this being said, now gays are 100% equal in the eyes of the law, so the gay lobby can now shut the frick up.
yeah good luck with that
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:57 am to OMLandshark
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so the gay lobby can now shut the frick up.
I'll hold my breath
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:58 am to fallguy_1978
quote:Well I don't know anyone who does but I can see lots of lawsuits in the future for anyone who is fired that is gay.
I actually don't think that you should be fired just for being gay.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:59 am to stout
And they're the ones likely to kick up a fuss about it.
It's already near impossible to fire someone of a protected group in a corporate setting. You need years of poor performance reviews, poor stakeholder input, documented examples of incompetence. It takes years.
It's already near impossible to fire someone of a protected group in a corporate setting. You need years of poor performance reviews, poor stakeholder input, documented examples of incompetence. It takes years.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:59 am to RLDSC FAN
And somehow, 3 morons voted the other way.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:00 am to fallguy_1978
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The success rate of those cases has to be pretty low though.
That's why you always have a paper trail of their piss poor performance.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:00 am to fallguy_1978
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but it seems like that would be difficult to prove.
Even if this is the case, it still costs a lot to litigate and prove it. A lot of attorneys know this and will just sue to get a settlement. It already happens with other protected classes as it is.
Plus, it's just more burden on HR departments now too. No matter how you look at it, this is an added cost for businesses.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:01 am to stout
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if you fire a gay person because of poor performance you will potentially have to prove that was the real reason in court.
Most companies settle these things before they even go to court.
But in the rare event it actually goes to court, a company that has dotted all their i's and crossed all their t's usually has little to worry about.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:04 am to stout
Old white males. Pretty much walking around with target on back at layoff time.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:05 am to StanSmith
Or when vying for a promotion
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:07 am to stout
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The only non protected class left in America is straight white males.
You can't be fired for your sexual orientation, race, or gender.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:07 am to OMLandshark
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If it’s illegal to fire someone for being black or Jewish, I don’t see why it should be legal to fire someone for being gay. Granted I am a libertarian where I think Title VII should be revoked and if any business is actually racist or sexist, then I’ll just go shop elsewhere. But I don’t see why sex should be a protected class and sexuality shouldn’t be as well.
all of this
if we are going to have protected classes, it seems obvious that sexuality would be part of that, so this is just an obvious extension of an already established law
I'm not in favor of any protected classes, despite what the OT likes to believe
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:12 am to RLDSC FAN
Discrimination laws are an overreach of government. Private companies should be allowed to hire who they want. This just opens the door for more frivolous lawsuits against companies who fire LGBT employees for cause.
Federal Government needs to get out of social engineering and focus on the original intent: National defense, economy, infrastructure.
Federal Government needs to get out of social engineering and focus on the original intent: National defense, economy, infrastructure.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:14 am to RougeDawg
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This just opens the door for more frivolous lawsuits against companies who fire LGBT employees for cause.
One way to fight frivolous lawsuits is to actually fight them in court and win against them. Settling out of court to avoid the fight helps perpetuate the problem.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:14 am to OMLandshark
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should be
Has nothing to do with the law, unfortunately our trash judicial branch loves to take their personal “should be” and create law out of thin air.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 11:15 am
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:15 am to The Spleen
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One way to fight frivolous lawsuits is to actually fight them in court and win against them. Settling out of court to avoid the fight helps perpetuate the problem.
That's only beneficial if the loser is required to pay
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:15 am to The Spleen
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One way to fight frivolous lawsuits is to actually fight them in court and win against them.
Also is typically more expensive in the long term than settling.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:16 am to RLDSC FAN
Horse hairs appointee even voted for this. Good on Gorsuch. 
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