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re: Just how bad are nursing homes in Louisiana?

Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:25 am to
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:25 am to
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Can we have a post about things that are good about Louisiana. There is never a good post about the conditions of Louisiana.



Most of those places suck in all states.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 9:30 am
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17822 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:26 am to
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Ask him if they have done a lot of work in Mississippi, and be sure to mention the term “Yazoo clay”.


Well I will ask him next time. But during that particular meeting I asked about Florida’s roads (big arse swamp). Which he said were just as bad as Louisiana’s.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
64238 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:28 am to
Most are bad but there are a very few that are good
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60662 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:42 am to
I believe this is more of a nationwide issue. they’re probably better in a few states (like Vermont) though.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22020 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:44 am to
Nursing home lobbyists annually defeat any attempts at reform. The biggest issue is that nursing homes control Medicare money & every year reformers try to change this, claiming most patients would prefer to stay home. But by controlling the Federal money, patients are forced to stay in nursing homes. JBE's 2 biggest lobbyists are the trial lawyers & nursing home lobbyists, 1A & 1B. There are very few licenses granted, by the State, i.e. politicians. It's a big political rip off.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21731 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:49 am to
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843 of his residents suffer following their evacuation to an ill-equipped warehouse without enough toilets, showers or air conditioning

"She had several issues," Guerin said. "They were leaving her with vomit covered in her bed. They would drop her food trays. They didn't replace them when they dropped them. They would bring food in and not feed her and even after she had a stroke. They would leave it out of her reach."

Not sure if these are describing the same facilities; but how many times do you visit and notice the conditions and still decide that this is the best place for your loved ones to spend the last moments of their lives in?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72090 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:52 am to
My family has instructions to allow me to go off in the woods somewhere to be eaten by bears before I am relegated to a nursing home.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122845 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:04 am to
Less than half the country actually pays taxes. And whatever taxes are collected are largely spent on entitlements and nonsense overseas.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89772 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:06 am to
I imagine the people that work at these places look at your old parents or grandparents and think they were slave owners...
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89772 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:08 am to
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LSU sports.

Luke warm winter.

Food.

Think that’s about it, chief.


Women with a coonass accent have good d sucking skills.


Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1740 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:27 am to
We had my mother in a nursing home before she passed. You have to go everyday and see them, know the staff by name and question anything you see that looks odd.

Too many people place relatives in a nursing home and walkaway. It's really sad.
Posted by LSUBFA83
Member since May 2012
4235 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:50 am to
It is sad but many families have few options. If all the children work and the parent requires round the clock care a nursing home may be the only affordable option. The whole industry needs to be revamped.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105290 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:52 am to
The Nursing home lobby is the second most influential in the state, behind only oil and gas. One of the shenanigans they pulled a while back was getting the state to mandate that certain procedures could only be performed in nursing homes, not by home health in the patients' own home, which would have been cheaper and better for the patient.

One of the nursing home operators I'm distantly acquainted with has a suite in Tiger Stadium and a vacation house in Jackson Hole, among other goodies.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 11:22 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299440 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:54 am to
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Richest country in the history of human existence and our elderly are left to rot in conditions that wouldn’t be allowed for zoo animals


Because inflation has made it impossible to hire decent people in low level occupations.

Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150328 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:55 am to
Nursing homes in the state are about like the schools, couple top tier and the vast majority of the rest are shitholes.

They are staffed like fast food restaurants. Couple places manage to get dependable employees and the vast majority of the rest are barely employable.


Posted by Cajun75
Member since Mar 2022
917 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 12:22 pm to
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The biggest issue is that nursing homes control Medicare money


It's actually Medicaid (low-income)money, my good man, since Medicare will only cover the first 20 days of a skilled nursing facility, but only after a 2-day hospital stay. If they have a supplement plan it will cover the next 80 days. After 100 days, unless you have a long-term-care policy, they will start depleting any liquid assets that you have until they are all exhausted. They can even go back as much as 5 years to see if the patient tried to move their money to relatives, etc. and reclaim it!! Once all available monies have been exhausted, they will move the patient onto Medicaid which will then pay for the care until the patient's passing if nothing changes. Depending on the patient's situation, I've even heard that they can come after houses/properties, etc. of the deceased to try to repay the expenses incurred by Medicaid, so it's wise to move all available assets into trusted family members' names prior to the 5-year lookback period.
Posted by Yammie250F
Member since Jul 2010
1053 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 12:31 pm to
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so it's wise to move all available assets into trusted family members' names prior to the 5-year lookback period.


This.

Not enough people do it because they don't know that their family members money, property etc can be taken or they never thought they'd put their loved one in a home but then reality hits and they don't have a choice because the loved one requires care the average person can't provide, kids and grandkids still have to work and can't stay home with them etc.
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1165 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 12:35 pm to
True. The difficulty is getting people to move assets while they are healthy. And as to quality of nursing homes I find that locally owned and managed do better than those owned by someone who owns many homes and has little direct hands on management
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart of the Big Sleazy
Member since Oct 2008
3783 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 12:53 pm to
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One of the nursing home operators I'm distantly acquainted with has a suite in Tiger Stadium and a vacation house in Jackson Hole, among other goodies.


I know some people in the industry. They are like friggin river boat pilots and trial attorneys.

They are a monopoly and most do very well.

Hiring people at the low end of the wage spectrum is extremely difficult in every industry. It’s tough to compete with the dole and EBT.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105290 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 1:12 pm to
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so it's wise to move all available assets into trusted family members' names prior to the 5-year lookback period.


There are drawbacks to this, too. What if they're not as honest as you think they are. What if they run over somebody, get sued and lose the assets you're shielding.

There are also things you can do to minimize the bite short of transferring all your assets. The scope is beyond this thread, but consulting an attorney or financial advisor with expertise in this area is well worthwhile.
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