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re: Judge Cancels Trial Because Lawyers on Both Sides Used AI

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Posted by HarryHoudini
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 7:16 pm to
You start a lot of threads
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85827 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 7:34 pm to
I use AI for internal work product and it’s mind-blowing and fantastic. I’ll even use it to draft some correspondence that isn’t going to a court.

I can’t bring myself to use it for pleadings yet.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41235 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 7:34 pm to
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This is the bad part. They didn't check the results.


You still need to review the work. That’s what is missing
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41235 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 7:36 pm to
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The problem with AI for legal research is that it’s smart enough to give you the answer or argument it can tell you want to make based on the question or prompt. Facts and actual citations be damned. That’s not the purpose of legal research. Legal research is to determine if the law supports the argument you want to make with the facts you have. And then you put that in writing.


When I teach tax research, I tell our people you need to find support for your position, not support for what or the client want to do.
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53575 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 7:48 pm to
Saw where SI scrubbed a writer's bio for that.

I don't really frick with AI, other than Google spitting out that result as the first one.
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 7:49 pm
Posted by OBMS
Member since Dec 2010
868 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 7:51 pm to
LINK

LINK

One from Houston - one from Baton Rouge

Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32990 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 7:59 pm to
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You can point AI to be factual and back up it's information. I AI cite scholarly sources APA style. Now just because something is a peer reviewed article doesn't mean the data is solid or the conclusions are correct, but what I am looking for most time is hard data to make a decision or develop a process.

AI will utterly make up cases, with full citations, that don’t exist. And even when the cases do exist, it’s a dice roll as to whether it gets the holding right, gets the holding backwards, or just makes up an unrelated holding entirely.

Any attorney that doesn’t tear through every citation AI gives at this point is an utter idiot.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478515 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 8:00 pm to
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At the hearing, Wilson explained that she is a solo practitioner licensed to practice law in the State of Louisiana. She owns the Wilson Law Firm, LLC, which has no policy in place pertaining to AI use


I'm guessing this is her firm's website

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Trusted Advocacy. Ethical Solutions.
Real Results


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Our mission is to provide ethical, client-centered, and high-quality legal services


MAY need to work on that



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Wilson explained that she was shocked when the Court issued the show cause order pointing out the hallucinated cases appearing in her filing. In essence, Wilson took the position that she was unaware that AI could produce hallucinated cases and explained that she did not even know what a hallucinated case was. The Court finds that explanation to be insufficient and incredulous.




IT GETS WORSE

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On this point, the Court is compelled to note that it has serious concerns that Wilson has continued this practice of AI misuse in other cases after she was put on notice of her violations in this case. Again, the show cause hearing in this case was held on January 20, 2026. On April 9, 2026, the United States Bankruptcy Court for the Western District of Louisiana sanctioned Wilson for submitting two filings containing “nonexistent cases and statutes as a result of what is universally known as ‘AI Hallucinations.’” See In re: Troylond Malon Wise, Debtor, 2026 WL 970390, at *1 (Bankr. W.D. La. Apr. 9, 2026). It follows that, as in this case, Wilson admitted to the Bankruptcy Court that she failed to independently verify AI-generated documents before filing them. See id. Wilson’s tainted filings in that case were respectively filed on March 16 and 18, 2026—two months after the show cause hearing was held before this Court.6 Her continued AI misuse demonstrates an extreme dereliction of professional responsibility on her part. Though this Court cannot consider subsequent conduct that did not occur before it in determination of the appropriate sanction(s) in this case, it finds that at minimum Wilson’s apologies to this Court on January 20, 2026 were not sincere. She failed to conform her conduct despite assuring to this Court that she would.


Holy shite the AI she was using is $499/mo. I need to get in on that grift
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 8:04 pm
Posted by GatorPA84
PNW
Member since Sep 2016
6338 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 8:12 pm to
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My daughter is a respected graduate of the Price School of Business at OU. Each of the last two years they have flown her to Norman, where she sits as a judge to grade the finals projects, which is writing a working business plan for a proposed business and make a pitch for funding by angel investors or a business group. She was cum laude and won this competition, which got her started in commercial real-estate as a financial analyst in multi-family property management, purchase and construction. This just past spring semester she failed three teams. All three teams were caught using AI to perform the work and when queried in front of the professors and dean, the students could not answer the most basic questions to explain their research and presentation




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CUM




That’s hott…pics?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72307 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 8:14 pm to
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AI is a fact of life in the modern world.


Its great for recruiting. Someone who is dumb enough to have their resume obviously written by AI and not checked = round file.

Its amazing how many of those I see, and this is for engineering jobs.
Posted by Antib551
Houma, LA
Member since Dec 2018
1415 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 8:21 pm to
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Holy shite the AI she was using is $499/mo. I need to get in on that grift
So this lazy bitch used an AI literally called First Draft and still couldn't even read the FAQ...even after be reprimanded by the courts. Not surprised after seeing her picture.

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Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
62604 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 8:25 pm to
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Yea - it's a major issue actually. There have been several instances of attorneys filing briefs with references to case law that doesn't even exist because AI completely made it up


Then, they shouldn’t be attorneys!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478515 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 6:32 am to
I didn't even read that much into it.

For $499/mo I'm not even sure what she was getting. This is fricking bonkers.

If I didn't have a big project I'm working on I'd Claude-code an app this weekend to sell to dumbass lawyers
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
123557 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 6:46 am to
From what I see on LinkedIn, there is a whole industry of peddling AI to PI lawyers. There is probably 1-3 years of runway to make $ before these dummies realize you either have access to the latest version of Claude or you’re using something inferior.
This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 6:47 am
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
81437 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 6:53 am to
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AI will utterly make up cases, with full citations, that don’t exist. And even when the cases do exist, it’s a dice roll as to whether it gets the holding right, gets the holding backwards, or just makes up an unrelated holding entirely.

Any attorney that doesn’t tear through every citation AI gives at this point is an utter idiot.


Definitely.

I've seen AI make way too many mistakes.

It shouldn't be anything more than a glorified search engine, where you follow the leads it gives you.

I tried it once for stonk recommendations but the results weren't great when I looked up the companies.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4383 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 6:56 am to
AI is flat out wrong a lot. I asked Gemini who had the higher covid death rate, USA or Brazil. It came back and told me Brazil. I then ask it for numbers per 100,000. Brazil had 330 and the USA had 350. I asked it how Brazil had a higher rate and it gave me some bullshite answer about speculating that Brazil under reported. Be very cautious with AI. It's just software. bullshite in equals bullshite out.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38185 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 6:56 am to
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AI is a tool in our bag but it’s shouldn’t be a crutch.



agree 100%, from an engineering POV it should mainly be used for quick research or for it to give you the relevant page number in a code book so you can go and actually verify things yourself, it should not be used blindly and trusted blindly. but it is no different than any of the other computer programs we use. Calcs have to be checked and every thing should be checked against ragagep

eventually AI though will be no different than other programs and no different than a calculator. At one time people didnt trust the answers from a calculator either

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Last summers LAPSELS ethics webinar was in the use of AI. So industries are trying to address the issue. Zits here to stay but how we use it is key.


thing is though, most of that is LAPELS protecting the members. Its why they have so many rules to begin with. and some of it is LAPELS being run by guys old as dirt for the most part.


but like you said...AI is a tool in the tool box, experience still matters a ton.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478515 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 6:59 am to
The cold calling salesmen have gotten so annoying the past year. Lying about being clients and then knowing nothing of their product, just reading "AI" stuff off a script.

I just cancelled Lexis because the Fastcase (b/c it has vLex incorporated now) we get now for free from the LSBA has improved greatly (and even has an AI option for $239/year!). It used to be bad but now it's better than my lowest tier Lexis that costs $200/mo. It even has the "copy with citation" option.

Pretty much everything I else I use other than SEO stuff is things I created myself or a system within the software I use regularly.

These salesmen can't even typically answer the most basic questions about their product, and I will be a dick if they use dishonesty to get through to me.
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1848 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 6:59 am to
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AI is a tool in our bag but it’s shouldn’t be a crutch.


This! I feed my own IP in dictation form and have it act as an admin to create drafts for me to review. Always always always review AIs work!!
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64224 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 7:02 am to
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It shouldn't be anything more than a glorified search engine


This isn’t true.
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