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re: Johnson & Johnson vaccine paused due to clotting concerns

Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:11 am to
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50945 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:11 am to
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It’s a similar protein with some amount of variation between individuals.


We have the entire genetic sequence of covid 19, it is an identical protein
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
54098 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:11 am to
Whew thanks for that
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14026 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:13 am to
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To alllll the people trying to make us get these vaccines and called us science deniers and antivaxxers....go frick yourself.


One death in 6.8 million doses of J&J is your point being proven? Wow, that’s a micro size point. Meanwhile hundreds of thousands have died of Covid and you probably don’t think that’s really a pandemic.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15605 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:13 am to
I love rejoicing from some on here that think J&J vaccine has been proven dangerous. By the end of the week J&J shots will be going into arms again if not sooner.
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
9132 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:14 am to
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6 of 6.8 million people that have received this vaccination. Seems like an overreaction


Yeah, kinda like locking down the entire world for .2 percent COVID death rate.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:15 am to
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Cossatotjoe


Stop. You're making SWAr look bad.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
71040 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:17 am to
Where they on birth control?

Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:19 am to

Only the slutty Catholic ones.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:19 am to
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love rejoicing from some on here that think J&J vaccine has been proven dangerous. By the end of the week J&J shots will be going into arms again if not sooner.


Some of these dumb fricks don’t understand what a pause is.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
57869 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:29 am to
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These vaccines are completely safe, and if you don’t believe that, you’re a backwoods simp.

Pretty much.


Which is why they’ve halted the J&J vaccine.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
40037 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:31 am to
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Do the instructions wear off? Does the spike protein go away?


Yes. The instructions are mRNA. They degrade in the cell eventually. I just explained that.

Yes. White blood cells recognize itC attack it, and eventually destroy it. It’s why people feel like shite after their doses, your immune system takes a frick ton of energy.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85136 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:35 am to
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Which is why they’ve halted the J&J vaccine.



ibuprofen has a 1000% higher risk of blood clots than the JNJ vaccine

Posted by TigerRealtor
Member since Sep 2013
241 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:36 am to
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The New York Times released an article today saying health officials want to slow down the pace of the 2nd shot so more people can get the first...I.e. they want to drag this shite out longer.



This actually makes sense. You have about 65-80% immunity after the first dose. I don’t see that as prolonging anything.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53404 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:37 am to
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The New York Times released an article today saying health officials want to slow down the pace of the 2nd shot so more people can get the first...I.e. they want to drag this shite out longer.



It is the UK Strategy, and it has worked really well in that country.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:38 am to
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ibuprofen has a 1000% higher risk of blood clots than the JNJ vaccine




You're forgetting a minor detail though

Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
67973 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:41 am to
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To alllll the people trying to make us get these vaccines and called us science deniers and antivaxxers....go frick yourself.


There’s a better chance of someone dying from eating peanuts that has an unknown allergy than the J&J vaccine. Maybe your dumb arse should quit buying peanut products at the grocery store too.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9021 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:43 am to
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It just makes my morning to watch the same people that love to use statistics to argue how minor COVID is to the average person, completely ignore those same statistics for the vaccine.


I see where you are coming from here, but I don't think the comparison is relevant.

For the virus, it's a risk everyone has already lived with for over a year. Additionally, it's a risk that ostensibly can be mitigated by health choices. In this situation, I like my chances by making my own decisions.

For the vaccine, it's a risk that you have zero control over and the effects (often under-reported) are seemingly random.

For those opposed to the vaccine, the "Do Nothing" scenario seems the safest. If you aren't scared of the virus you've already lived with for over a year and take control of your health, even a tiny risk in a vaccine seems excessive.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85136 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:46 am to
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and the effects (often under-reported) are seemingly random.


I doubt they are random at all

much like COVID, there will be a pattern

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If you aren't scared of the virus you've already lived with for over a year and take control of your health, even a tiny risk in a vaccine seems excessive.


I'm not scared of COVID and I'm in fantastic health.

I'm also not scared of vaccines. I get the flu shot every year. I like myself and my family not getting sick. It has nothing to do with being scared.

Never in the history of vaccines have people associated getting vaccinated with "being scared" of a virus.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:46 am to
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You’ve got to love the people who feel vindicated this morning. They’ve been warning about these “rushed” vaccines for months and now they think they’ve been vindicated. Never mind the fact the JNJ vaccine is built on one of the oldest vaccine platforms out there. Meanwhile, the “new” vaccines on mRNA platforms are substantially more effective and have shown to be quite safe.



I just want to say that I dont feel vindicated nor do I think I am right.....but this is one of the reasons I am in a wait and see mode before I decide if/when or which vaccine I will get. I dont feel like I have to rush out and get the vaccine right now...I dont see the point being that I'm not in a high risk category.
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
2004 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:47 am to
Six people out of millions of doses? This shouldn't even be a story, much less having its use paused. Stupid. And from the looks of this thread, many are buying into the vaccine fear porn. Don't you see that you're being manipulated? This whole thing is the best shot the left has ever had to drive us to socialism, and they are going to drive it as long as they can. Here's the latest iteration.
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