re: Joe Rogan & a NASA astrophysicist talk about measuring time

I saw a presentation from a theoretical physicist who presented how God could have made the world in 7 days, it was 7 days as we think about it because God is energy and the closer you get to energy the more time slows.

Time, or the perception of it, accelerates as you get older. I think there is so damn much we cannot comprehend. Gravity itself is a mindfrick. Why do these large balls of rock and gas have the ability to suck things in?

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It’s time for me to read another thread.

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The gravity stuff scared me a bit too but you just gotta let it wash over you and stick around.

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Joe doesn’t understand that a clock is 24 hrs based on the average length of a day which is based on the earth’s spin being one day.

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You don’t think he realizes this?

For whatever is the reason I find more hope in the mysteries of the universe and an amazing and strong feeling of God’s presence therein than I do from many Earthly religions.

Always have.

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Absolutely, which is a great contribution to the overall thread as more evidence that time is relative, based purely on perception, and fake AF.

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Thank you. I call it LSUSA’s axiom.

Not to side track the OP, on a somewhat related note concerning the measurement of time -

“14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.”

So until day 5, there was no basis for an earthly time scale. I don’t see the point in getting into theological arguments over days being literal 24 hour periods.

Edit - Just curious, are the down votes because I have brought in a theological aspect to the discussion or because people that accept Genesis disagree with the idea of a “day” representing a sequence of events rather than a 24 hour period, at least until day 5.

Long post, sorry.. but a thought experiment I’ve kicked around over the years:

I think a lot of people find the concept of spacetime unsatisfying because it seems inconsistent - why can we travel both directions in the space dimension, but only one direction in the time dimension?

So imagine I walk down a hallway from my bedroom to my living room. When I get to the end of the hallway, I can turn around and walk back to my bedroom. But when I get to the end of the hallway, I can’t rewind time back to when I left the bedroom.

But.. what if I could rewind time? What would happen? Well, since all of the chemical and electrical processes that formed my memory of walking down the hallway would reverse, I’d have no memory of it. So maybe time isn’t one-directional at all; maybe it’s just that our experience of time is one-directional because of how entropy shapes that experience.

Another way to think about it is: if being able to accept time as bidirectional requires us to somehow retain our memories, what’s the actual analog for that in the space dimension? So I walk down the hallway to the living room then somehow manage to isolate my brain/memories while time reverses and I end up back in the bedroom. What’s the spatial analog for that?

Well.. it would be like walking down the hallway to the living room, somehow isolating the hallway behind you, then walking back to the bedroom while your bedroom is still behind you. Just as the time example requires the bedroom to be both in your future and past when time reverses, the space example requires your bedroom to be both in front of you and behind you when you turn around. From that perspective, neither is possible - meaning both space and time are one-directional.

To me it seems that either A) both space and time are bidirectional and we just can’t wrap our heads around it because of memory/entropy, or B) neither space nor time are bidirectional and we’re just using flawed logic to convince ourselves that we can travel both directions through space. The distinction between the two options mostly comes down to how we choose to define bidirectionality.

Anyhow, that’s my TED Talk for tonight.

A rate of our growth or decay that we benchmark relative to our planet’s rotation of its sun and moon?

We are the constant for the benchmark.

The intervals for which we measure this (60, 24, 7, 12, 365) feel kind of stupid.

Consciousness and time should not be bound to each other. Consciousness might be circular with connecting points and we consider it stuck to some sort of linear grid instead.

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Since we are seeing the light from stars billions of years ago just reaching us, if we could instantly go to those stars and look back at earth, would we be seeing billions of years in the past?

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