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Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:00 pm to lsupride87
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5% rate or lower parishes for 2+ weeks, bars can open, 25% capacity, seated, no more than 50 outside, no loud music allowed, orders just from staff, no 18-20 years old allowed
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Anger will commence, but this is lock step in line with the WH guidelines
Not really.
Phase 2 White House Opening Up America Plan
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BARS may operate with diminished standing-room occupancy, where applicable and appropriate.
Phase 3 White House Opening Up America Plan
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BARS may operate with increased standing room occupancy, where applicable.
Were we not at 25% before he shut them down again???? So now we are back at 25% which in phase 3 is not an increase from phase 2....so it doesn't follow the White House guidelines and is some arbitrary thing that he pulled out of his arse. Also no where in the guidelines from the White House does it say anything about music in bars, what time they have to close, and how old people have to be to get in.
So I'm not sure what you are looking at.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:01 pm to lsupride87
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Anyone who says phase 3 is worse than phase 2 is batshit insane
He pretty clearly added a restriction to restaurants they didn’t previously have. Phase 3 isn’t worse on the whole, but it shouldn’t be worse on any individual level either, yet here we are.
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:01 pm to Fun Bunch
Restaurants have increased their capacity by 25%
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:01 pm to lsupride87
pride, honest request.
The info is in bits and pieces in various posts -- can you concisely and clearly lay out each thing that has changed? Maybe into a "now" and "before" column??
The info is in bits and pieces in various posts -- can you concisely and clearly lay out each thing that has changed? Maybe into a "now" and "before" column??
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:01 pm to Clint Torres
I guess Pride thinks the small increase in capacity limits is a big deal or something. LOL
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:01 pm to musick
Am I correct in understanding that they are basing it on % of positive tests?
If so, how the frick does that make any sense? If a parish consistently has 8% positive tests, but the number of tests drops by 50%, that likely means that they have 50% less people with COVID symptoms. But they still can’t open bars.
I can understand using positivity in combination with some other criteria (e.g. case trends, cases per capita, etc.) to keep parishes from trying to manipulate the data. But using it as the sole determining factor and setting the target at 5% seems asinine.
Did that come from the WH guidelines?
If so, how the frick does that make any sense? If a parish consistently has 8% positive tests, but the number of tests drops by 50%, that likely means that they have 50% less people with COVID symptoms. But they still can’t open bars.
I can understand using positivity in combination with some other criteria (e.g. case trends, cases per capita, etc.) to keep parishes from trying to manipulate the data. But using it as the sole determining factor and setting the target at 5% seems asinine.
Did that come from the WH guidelines?
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:01 pm to lsupride87
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Anyone who says phase 3 is worse than phase 2 is batshit insane
I assure you anyone in the restaurant/bar industry would disagree with you. JBE just capped all places at 10pm essentially. You can say but they get 25% more but no one gives a frick about the percentage at this point anyway. The age limit for patrons is just comical. That will get challenged and shot down quickly.
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:02 pm to lsupride87
Non of this is white house Guidelines. This is the government making shut up as they go.
Who cares about 5%? Why wouldn’t you do highest per capita active cases or least available covid beds per capita?
Oh that’s right, it’s not about facts. It’s about federal funding.
ETA
Whoever upvoted me with the typos I had in the first sentence either really gets me or is insane. I mean, I called it the white goose and called them
Moms guidelines.
Who cares about 5%? Why wouldn’t you do highest per capita active cases or least available covid beds per capita?
Oh that’s right, it’s not about facts. It’s about federal funding.
ETA
Whoever upvoted me with the typos I had in the first sentence either really gets me or is insane. I mean, I called it the white goose and called them
Moms guidelines.
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:02 pm to lsupride87
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Anyone who says phase 3 is worse than phase 2 is batshit insane
It's at best the same for bars....considering what we have been in for the last 6-8 weeks was phase 1.5 at best.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:02 pm to lostinbr
Will movie theaters open?
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:02 pm to Loaner1231
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Will movie theaters open?
They've been open for a couple of weeks
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:03 pm to lsupride87
quote:It just depends on what you value. If you valued being able to go to your bar functioning as a restaurant, and staying and drinking there until whatever time they had to close previously, and now they have to close at 11pm, then it's worse for you.
Anyone who says phase 3 is worse than phase 2 is batshit insane
It's better for me, as I haven't been staying out super late anyway, and now restaurants will be easier to get into. Also, church seating will be much better.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:03 pm to lsupride87
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Restaurants have increased their capacity by 25%
Have they really? How many restaurants can socially distance 6ft at 75% capacity? For many places they will be able to marginally increase capacity for the trade off of losing booze revenue. I would like to hear the scientific reasoning behind the last call at 10pm for everywhere.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:03 pm to LSU316
Let's try a basic logic lesson with pride:
In Original Phase 2, bars were open at 25%. Then closed.
In Phase 3, bars are open up at 25%....HOWEVER with more restrictions.
In Modified Phase 2, restaurants and bars acting as restaurants could serve alcohol WHENEVER they want.
In Phase 3, they have to stop at 10pm. That is an added restriction.
Therefore, Phase 3 is more restrictive.
In Original Phase 2, bars were open at 25%. Then closed.
In Phase 3, bars are open up at 25%....HOWEVER with more restrictions.
In Modified Phase 2, restaurants and bars acting as restaurants could serve alcohol WHENEVER they want.
In Phase 3, they have to stop at 10pm. That is an added restriction.
Therefore, Phase 3 is more restrictive.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:03 pm to LSU316
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It's at best the same for bars
the 10pm thing is automatically worse than phase 2... nevermind the fact that only 5 parishes even qualify due to this arbitrary 5% BS.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:04 pm to Loaner1231
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Will movie theaters open?
I haven’t seen anything about indoor events. I’m waiting to actually get to see my daughter play volleyball.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:04 pm to Epic Cajun
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It just depends on what you value. If you valued being able to go to your bar functioning as a restaurant, and staying and drinking there until whatever time they had to close previously, and now they have to close at 11pm, then it's worse for you.
You saying you think they are going to all of a sudden now start recognizing the bars that got the restaurant licenses as now back on the bar license???? That would be a piss off for sure.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:04 pm to Fun Bunch
but but but but they get an extra 25% for part of the day.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:04 pm to lsupride87
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Restaurants have increased their capacity by 25%
This does effectively very little. Most restaurants cannot add another 25% and keep social distancing.
On top of that, virtually EVERY restaurant makes their money from...alcohol sales.
Putting a MAJOR restriction on alcohol sales is a net negative to opening up at an extra 25%.
It makes no sense whatsoever.
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