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I've been following the Karmelo trial a less than modest amount, ...

Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:47 am
Posted by theliontamer
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:47 am
And definitely have not heard all of the info.

However, I really don't see how they would prove this is pre meditated or even second degree murder. I feel like this is going to fall into manslaughter. I assume this just kind of happened spur of the moment. Is this an accurate conclusion? Or am i missing some facts.

The real problem I see here is with black culture and the normalization of extreme violence. Say what you will, but a typical white kid fight is more like a scuffle that is over in a minute. We see numerous times in the black community these teenagers killing each other with weapons, stomping people's heads when they are defenseless on the ground, group attacks, etc. Austin Metcalf probably never even considered the possibility he would get stabbed at a high school track meet, but for Karmelo, that is just part of his culture and was easily ready to use lethal force.

This is just a reality a lot of people want to ignore. This is why people cross to the other side of the street when thug looking teenagers are walking towards their direction. It's not racism, it's statistics and logic. Combine this with underlying hatred of white people, and we have a bigger problem that is being exacerbated by the media and forced diversity and inclusion.

Is this fixable? Our country really needs to stop turning a blind eye to its problems before it is too late.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 11:04 am
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:49 am to
You know there is an entire thread on this just above you, right?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:49 am to
quote:

for Karmelo, that is just part of his culture and was easily ready to use lethal force.

good luck selling that to a competent jury.
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:50 am to
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Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:50 am to
quote:

I've been following the Karmelo trial a modest amount, ...
quote:

, I really don't see how they would prove this is pre meditated or even second degree murder.


no you havent
Posted by canyon
MM23
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:51 am to
Yeah perfect take. The OP is somewhat a tard.
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:52 am to
I love when someone tries to sound "educated" while excusing the violent acts of others. There's an entire thread where you and other "MENSA" members can extoll the virtues of violence and how this should be excused because a culture accepts it as normal.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21831 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:59 am to
The testimony seems to strongly indicate that Anthony went to another teams tent and provoked them repeatedly and then stabbed the guy the in the heart the moment he got touched.

The legal degrees of murder/manslaughter differ from state to state, but this looks like murder and not manslaughter to me.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:02 am to
quote:

Karmelo, that is just part of his culture and was easily ready to use lethal force.


"Your honor...he's black"
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:03 am to
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I really don't see how they would prove this is pre meditated


can you provide any other rational explanation for taking a banned weapon to a track meet, at a facility you are not allowed to be at, under a tent you don't belong under?



Posted by GhostofLesticleMiles
High Plains Drifter
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:04 am to
quote:

However, I really don't see how they would prove this is pre meditated or even second degree murder. I feel like this is going to fall into manslaughter.




Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:05 am to
quote:

However, I really don't see how they would prove this is pre meditated or even second degree murder.


quote:

but for Karmelo, that is just part of his culture and was easily ready to use lethal force.


So you're viewing the guilt or not through a lens of the murderer's culture?



In Texas there is the first-degree felony of Murder. This is intentionally or knowingly causing the death of an individual or intending to cause serious bodily injury and committing an act clearly dangerous to human life that results in death.

Then there is the second-degree felony of Manslaughter. This is the recklessly causing the death of another person. This means the accused was aware of but consciously disregarded a substantial and unjustifiable risk.

There's room for both there as he showed up to the school armed, especially after being told he needed to leave the team's tent multiple times by multiple people. This is amplified by his refusal to leave and his responses along the lines of "touch me and find out," and "If you want me to move, you have to move me."
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:05 am to
Adjusted my title, and really just trying to gain further insight here... Is it proved and accepted that he repeatedly provoked the team's tent?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104524 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:07 am to
He went in, was asked about 15 times to leave, and made a threat repeatedly about finding out what was in his bag if they touched him.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
17473 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:12 am to
quote:

Austin Metcalf probably never even considered the possibility he would get stabbed at a high school track meet, but for Karmelo, that is just part of his culture and was easily ready to use lethal force.



Surely you're not suggesting that a person can stab another person, who is unarmed, to death and we should just say "Oh well that's just his culture ", then shrug and walk away like nothing happened and let the murderer go free? Right?
Posted by HarryHoudini
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:16 am to
quote:

but for Karmelo, that is just part of his culture and was easily ready to use lethal force.


That’s called murder not manslaughter. You just contradicted yourself.
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
4269 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:19 am to
So the country’s legal system should alter its punishment because a certain culture acts like wild animals?

Makes sense…..
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2054 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:19 am to
I'm by no means defending Karmelo, and hope he gets locked up.

Banned weapon is an exaggeration. It was a pocket knife. And while against school policy, is not illegal to carry. I would assume there were many pocket knifes in possession at this track meet, and i bet even a few concealed firearms were there too.

Why was he not allowed to be at the facility? I'm not aware of this.

Under a tent he doesn't belong. Sure, it wasn't his team's tent, but the testimony i saw was that he was initially talking to another person he knew under the tent. I'm sure it was very common for kids from other schools to spend time under another school's tent.

I'm just noting, I've seen way worse murder trials result in weak convictions.

Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75190 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:21 am to
we already have a massive thread on this topic. please remove this one.
Posted by Dragula
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:23 am to
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