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Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:39 pm to Number 9 Fan
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Actually 21.6% over 64
US is 16%
Which is a big jump, especially having more in the 80-90 age range than the majority of the world
Not sure why your stat doesn’t mean it can’t be 23% at 65 though
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:39 pm to Golfer
quote:Yet. They may still.
not population density or age as the rest of the EU isn’t dealing with this level of severity
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think you might see a surge in SK soon, just me though
*fricking autocorrect
*fricking autocorrect
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Has it been established why so many deaths in Italy compared to the rest of the world?
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:41 pm to The Egg
quote:
I think you might see a dude in SK soon, just me though

Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:The increase in testing is resulting in more cases being identified, NOT that there are more cases.
I thought the lockdown was supposed to bend the curve?
This was repeated numerous times last week to expect a huge jump in identified cases as testing numbers increased.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:44 pm to LSURussian
Both are probably correct FWIW
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:45 pm to LSURussian
quote:increased testing isn't affecting raw death numbers
The increase in testing is resulting in more cases being identified, NOT that there are more cases.
This was repeated numerous times last week to expect a huge jump in identified cases as testing numbers increased.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:46 pm to Batman Chalupa
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Has it been established why so many deaths in Italy compared to the rest of the world?
Old age, heavy smoking and other underlying causes are currently the best guess. Heavy smoking is also being attributed to the disproportionate number of older men dying. 70% of Italian deaths are men.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:46 pm to The Egg
i couldn't pass on the opportunity to merge post with gif like that
but i agree with you. SK has things working for it, like being effectively an island, history responding to viruses, culture, etc
this is our first pandemic in 100 years. it's like their 3rd in 10 or so
but i agree with you. SK has things working for it, like being effectively an island, history responding to viruses, culture, etc
this is our first pandemic in 100 years. it's like their 3rd in 10 or so
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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this is our first pandemic in 100 years.
The first with a novel virus since 1918. Old friends like H1N1 have caused recent pandemics.
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:49 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
One ranking;
One through ten
Spain.
Italy.
Iceland.
Japan.
Switzerland.
Sweden.
Australia.
Singapore.
Norway.
Israel.
One through ten
Spain.
Italy.
Iceland.
Japan.
Switzerland.
Sweden.
Australia.
Singapore.
Norway.
Israel.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
What in the frick is going on over there?
Their hospitals are overwhelmed. Some of the dead would be alive if not for the spike in cases.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:51 pm to castorinho
quote:I didn't say it did. Thanks.
increased testing isn't affecting raw death numbers
My comment was in response to the "bending the curve" comment by another poster.
The "curve" that we keep hearing about that needs bending doesn't refer to death numbers.
It refers to the number of infection cases.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:51 pm to bigpapamac
quote:
Italy has only been locked down for 12 days or so. Think the average time from infection to death is 18 days so you aren’t really expecting to see these numbers go down yet. Italy got way behind on testing and this thing was overwhelming their system by the time they figured out what was happening.
I really hope this is the case.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:52 pm to Ed Osteen
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Which is a big jump, especially having more in the 80-90 age range than the majority of the world
Not sure why your stat doesn’t mean it can’t be 23% at 65 though
I posted under someone saying 25%.
I just quickly googled and posted two stats. One for Italy and one for the US to bring some context to the discussion.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:53 pm to dagrippa
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Their hospitals are overwhelmed. Some of the dead would be alive if not for the spike in cases.
This is why people relying too much on the mortality rate are using flawed logic. The key number is capacity of the health care system. Even if someone does not die, if they require hospitalization/ventilator then it's a huge issue. Also keep in mind Italy is about a week ahead of us on the curve. Next week in the U.S. will be fairly telling of how we can handle things.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:54 pm to LSURussian
quote:
The "curve" that we keep hearing about that needs bending doesn't refer to death numbers.
The two key numbers as I see it are the death numbers and those requiring critical or intensive care. Numbers showing the total confirmed cases are totally dependent on testing that is not consistent.
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