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Posted by baldona
Florida
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:15 pm to
At the same time there's so much activity the last 3 days and potentially in future days that any activity in and of itself would not be concerning. Whereas you take some missions and a huge fire fight would stick out, it would be very possible for a hostage rescue to go on and be somewhat unnoticed depending on the ingress/egress transportation options.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:16 pm to
Well, they know Americans hostages are worth billions of dollars now.

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The Biden administration cut a deal with Iran in September to transfer $6 billion in previously frozen assets in exchange for five American prisoners.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:18 pm to
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Guys guys guys, slow the roll. A compound in Syria or Pakistan is not in the same stratosphere of trying to do that type of mission in 20 x 5 mile postage stamp inhabited by 2M people

Well it was about 20 miles outside of Baghdad with a significant population (not close to Gaza, but 100k inhabitants in a fairly small village). And I never said that's what was going to happen. Just pointing out some Special Mission Units that could possibly have the ability to pull off something that risky.
Posted by Burt Orangello
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:20 pm to
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Guys guys guys, slow the roll. A compound in Syria or Pakistan is not in the same stratosphere of trying to do that type of mission in 20 x 5 mile postage stamp inhabited by 2M people. This ain’t an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. It’s a thing called real life. Like Burt said it would require a huge ground force and a helluva diversion. Plus you know that if the Hamas leadership has 1/2 a brain the hostages are spread out. Plus Sigint ain’t gonna develop that picture alone and there is a very slim likelihood that Israel would burn humint assets for this.


And likely not grouped/bunched up by common characteristics. Getting all of one group (all the Americans, for example) likely means multiple locations and each location requires its own planning, resources, etc.

This isn’t hitting a compound, prison, etc. Totally different animal.

Trust me, if it happens it won’t be isolated or surgical. It’ll be big and/or a series of smaller stuff spread over a long period of time.

The enemy has a say in this too, ya know.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:27 pm to
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Well it was about 20 miles outside of Baghdad with a significant population (not close to Gaza, but 100k inhabitants in a fairly small village). And I never said that's what was going to happen. Just pointing out some Special Mission Units that could possibly have the ability to pull off something that risky.


With an ability to seal corridors, stage a QRF with secure ingress/egress routes and likely significant Humint/Sigint developed. Totally different beast than Gaza. I mean don’t get me wrong. I would have the biggest boner known to man if they pulled this off. I just don’t see me having a John Holmes sized Johnson anytime soon.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:28 pm to
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And likely not grouped/bunched up by common characteristics. Getting all of one group (all the Americans, for example) likely means multiple locations and each location requires its own planning, resources, etc.

This is what I think is being overlooked by some. They are spread out in many locations. This wouldn't be an in-and-out type operation even if everything went perfectly. It would take a considerable amount of time.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:32 pm to
Well this highlights to complete cluster that is ongoing.

@sentdefender
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Heavy Gunfire can be heard throughout the City of Ashdod with reports that at least 2 Police Officers were Seriously Wounded when several different Police and Military Units arrived On-Scene of a Criminal Incident thinking it was a Terrorist Incursion and Opened-Fire on each other.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:36 pm to
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Heavy Gunfire can be heard throughout the City of Ashdod with reports that at least 2 Police Officers were Seriously Wounded when several different Police and Military Units arrived On-Scene of a Criminal Incident thinking it was a Terrorist Incursion and Opened-Fire on each other.


Whoopsie…..somebody needs to exchange some liaison officers to deconflict in their COCs.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:37 pm to
No comment

Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:43 pm to
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Nobody on the planet is unaware that when you take American hostages, certain personnel are going to be put into position to respond.
devgru blue and delta
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476534 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:43 pm to
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I would not want to be on the opposing side of them and mossad

Considering the rules of engagement right now in that area, nope.
Posted by Fats
Member since Nov 2012
3391 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:49 pm to
Is this for real?
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36070 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:53 pm to
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Is this for real?


Yes

NPR Article

Waiting for enlightened O-T centrists to explain this to us mouth breathers.
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 2:54 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19470 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:53 pm to
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Is this for real?


Just Googles "BLM Chicago" which led me to their Facebook Page...it's the top post on their feed
Posted by hawgndodge
Member since Jun 2009
5425 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:53 pm to
It's up on their Twitter account now. Shows to have been posted 3 hours ago
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:53 pm to
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Ayatollah Assaholla better watch out.


May see video of him crawling out of a hole before too long. Can only hope he's treated worse than Gaddafi.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56844 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:54 pm to
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Is this for real?



It wouldn't shock me at all considering who posted it.


Through the lens of social media there seems to be plenty of people who are justifying and rationalizing these attacks with the idea that this is a result of the actions of Israel the last 75 years and that Israel had it comin'. Plenty.
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:56 pm to
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The first rule of covert ops is “You do not announce you are doing a covert op.”

Do they have Sterling Archer running this motherfricker?



You think Hamas didn't know the US would show up?
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103934 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:59 pm to
Hamas isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer if they thought a cease fire could work after literally slaughtering babies.
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