re: Israel–Hamas War Discussion Thread: News Links On First Page

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Why do you say that? Do you not think IDF is armed and prepared enough?

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He was answering a question not making a prediction.

That being said MOUT ops in a city in rubble against the force that built the defense of the city and have 300 miles of underground tunnels is going to be expensive both in men and machines, it simply is what it is.


I have said it before but have been downvoted the IDF has a limited period of time before they start losing the high levels of support they have internationally currently. The longer it goes on the more casual support they will lose and the more pictures and video of women and children victims will come out. Even if the IDF doesn't harm a hair on any of them Hamas will fabricate the "evidence" even if they have to wound and kill the "innocents" themselves.

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Do you not think IDF is armed and prepared enough?

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No

Western progressives have laid the groundwork for this for decades, and now the ramifications are becoming apparent…

Look no further than the terrorist sympathizers in our own govt: Tlaib, Omar, AOC, etc.

There is a groundswell of terrorist support in these districts and it is 100% by design. Judeo Christians need to wake up that what’s happening to Israel is but a thin slice, a microcosm of what Islam wants to do globally. UK, France, and Germany are finding out.

It’s not about a two state solution, it’s about eradicating all infidels.

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Certainly would explain why Israel has been bombing the frick out of the shoreline.

For all I know, though, it could be a feint to make Hamas defend an area they think is vulnerable to that. Happened in Gulf War 1 when the Iraqis were convinced we were going to do an amphibious assault in certain areas and instead we drove columns of tanks through them.

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I originally attributed to that Focus of that bombing on Israeli intelligence targeting leaders who had moved to the coast to flee as soon as the ground Invasion started ( leaving the lower echelons to their fate).

But now I think that was "elimination of cover by kinetics" for the express purpose of landing or landings.

And has anybody read the UN initiation of an of war crimes investigation into Hamas for targeting civilians intentionally? Oh wait there's a reason no one's read that yet

Sky News in UK may as well be Muslim propaganda. Holy shite, they may as well be ran directly by Hamas.

They are showing protests in London. Looks to be close to a million Muslims in the streets. Muslim speakers are up there yelling about how wonderful Palestinians are and how evil Jews are. I am sure Britain is feeling culturally enriched.

Sky were the ones interviewing Hamas’ Baghdad Bob the other day when he claimed that Hamas killed no civilians then went on to say that anyone living in a settlement was not a civilian.

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They believe they will win, and that's not unreasonable.

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Dude the only thing they may win is the PR campaign and the Jews figure that they take MSM hits regardless so why not finish these ragheads.

Completely unrelated, but all Muslim sympathizing progressives should speak to these two American women who joined ISIS:

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“Once I look back on it, I can’t stress how much of a crazy idea it was,” she said. “I can’t believe it. I ruined my life. I ruined my future.”

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“How do you go from burning a passport to crying yourself to sleep because you have so much deep regret? How do you do that?” Ms. Polman asked. “How do you show people that?”

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“I realized how I didn’t appreciate or maybe even really understand how important the freedoms that we have in America are. I do now,” she wrote. “To say that I regret my past words, any pain that I caused my family and any concerns I would cause my country would be hard for me to really express properly.”

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Dude the only thing they may win is the PR campaign and the Jews figure that they take MSM hits regardless so why not finish these ragheads.

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I would do everything I could do to capture civilian dressed combatants and chain them to my armor so that when Hamas conducts an ambush they can be blamed for killing Pali civilians.

A) what do you have to lose?
B) use their own tactics against them

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This assumes that this will be a street to street urban assault and not bombing the living frick out of certain targets then checking the results.


I don’t think Israel is going to bother to do door to door checks before leveling these places. They will “knock knock”, wait a few minutes, then level it with a bunker buster to ensure it hits the tunnels beneath it.

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That might be how some overly ambitious S3 shop types it up but if they plan to clear the cities that won't be how it goes down. People have no idea how many fighters survive even massive carpet bombing campaigns. If they go it it will be dirty nasty and casualty heavy. I am not saying the IDF can't clear the entirety of Gaza but it is going to be far from a sanitized YT feed. I am also not suggesting they shouldn't do it but they have to be prepared for the consequences and it likely won't be as rosy as even their worst expectations. It is an area that has been built for defense by the very people defending it.


This concept of leveling everything and then clearing is pie in the sky. The amount of resources that would take is beyond what the coalition brought to bear before ODS kicked off. If you examine the live feeds you will see how little of Gaza City has even been touched. While on one hand, it is small (less than 150 sq mi) it is still a huge area that would require an enormous amount of conventional munitions to even bruise much less destroy.