re: is traditional tip culture suffering due to tip everywhere ?

Anywhere you ask for a tip BEFORE I receive the service you aren’t getting squat.

If I have to go up to the counter to order my food and pay for and you won’t get a dime.

I’ll be the boards piece of shite

I’ve stopped tipping all together. I don’t care anymore.

Last time I went out to eat I tipped $5 on a $100 bill. Server sucked, food was shite (and expensive), frick em

What restaurants do this?

I would much prefer to pay another 5-20 for a meal with the tip built into the overall cost, than to tip separately

I have no issue with tipping, I worked in the service industry and back when I did it was my livelihood.

But you need to be aware it's not always the way it used to be. I went out twice this weekend where the tip was already included on the bill, but you better look because if you don't you'll double down and the default was 18% and 20%.

And also the hourly wage is not always what the standard was back in my day.

On example I go to about 2-3 series a year at Wrigley Field and I always tipped the concessions folks like I do all bartenders but come to find out they were already making like $16 an our and they were last year striking for get a raised. So I started tipping them $1 after I found that out.

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If I tip you at the coffeeshop, and then you take 20 minutes to make my drink anyways, that leaves me with a pretty sour taste in my mouth. Like, what did I tip you for? It wasn't because my drink was so difficult to make, it was to motivate you to get off your arse and make it.

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I mean, if you come in with 30 people in front of you, you shouldnt be surprised if the barista is in the weeds. Which is about the only time Ive had to wait 20 minutes for a drink.

I’m just more aware of the level of service. Like ordering a couple of draft beers, pulling on a handle and filling a glass, what’s that merit? Versus a cocktail or anything that requires more than 10 seconds of effort. I almost always tip a little and usually default 20% for actual service.

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Drink prices are through the roof these days and usually cost more than the food. I'm not tipping bartenders lately but it's because I'm not ordering drinks.

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So in Vegas for the LSU game poolside at Ceasars, so I know drinks are going to be expensive. But I'm chilling with friends, the talent at the pool is fantastic, so I'm willing to pay a bit more.

It's Sunday morning, hanging a bit so I order two bloody mary's for a friend and me I owed him from the night before. I pull out a $50 to pay and he informs me it's $84. I almost seized! I said you gotta be frickin kidding me he says yeah I know it's crazy....I said yeah you damn right it is but the drinks were poured and for whatever reason I capitulated, looking back wished i had walked away an refused to pay but I didn't, on me.

So I pull out a $100 then the Cat asks me if I want change?!!! I said hell yeah dude I'm tipping you for what the drink should be not the ridiculous price you just charged me.

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I would much prefer to pay another 5-20 for a meal with the tip built into the overall cost, than to tip separately

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We are going to get downvoted but I'm with you. Pay people what the market didtates and let tips go back to being for above average or great service. Having to tip to keep people from fricking with your product was the last straw for me.

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Having to tip to keep people from fricking with your product was the last straw for me.

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Where does this myth come from?

BOH doesnt give AF about FOH tips. And thats the shite that would get you fired on the spot as a cook.

If its a service counter/bar/coffee shop, you can stand there and watch em.