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Is there any scenario where cops legally can question someone without a lawyer?
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:19 pm
Maybe this belongs on the MTV board but it seems like almost every crime show depends on totally ignoring having an attorney present when doing interrogation scenes.
Do lots of people actually willingly talk to cops without one? Is this just a massive fib Hollywood always has to use to make the stories work and have interesting interrogations?
Do lots of people actually willingly talk to cops without one? Is this just a massive fib Hollywood always has to use to make the stories work and have interesting interrogations?
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Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:21 pm to jlovel7
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Do lots of people actually willingly talk to cops without one?
Yes. Criminals for the most part are idiots and gladly incriminate themselves without much help from authorities
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:21 pm to jlovel7
The number of people that believe cops are talking to them to actually help them is astounding.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:21 pm to jlovel7
Cops can ask any question they want, whether a lawyer is present or not.
The subject of those questions is of course free to keep his mouth shut.
The subject of those questions is of course free to keep his mouth shut.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:22 pm to jlovel7
quote:Yes, if the person agrees to answer their questions without having a lawyer present.
Is there any scenario where cops legally can question someone without a lawyer?
quote:The types of people committing crimes are usually idiots, so yes
Do lots of people actually willingly talk to cops without one?
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:22 pm to jlovel7
Define cops. FBI and other 3 letter agencies scoff at the Bill of Rights.
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:25 pm to jlovel7
Only if you are dumb enough to do it. You always have the right to remain silent.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:25 pm to jlovel7
I’ve recently gone down a police interrogation YouTube rabbit hole. They show real interrogations of criminals being questioned for murders, etc. They’re fascinating to watch and it’s amazing what the criminals will answer without even once thinking about requesting an attorney.
The interrogation tactics are also really interesting and most of the interrogators are really frickin good at making the criminal feel relaxed and speak pretty freely until they’re admitting the crime.
The interrogation tactics are also really interesting and most of the interrogators are really frickin good at making the criminal feel relaxed and speak pretty freely until they’re admitting the crime.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:25 pm to Jcorye1
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FBI and other 3 letter agencies scoff at the 5th.
Yep… you can lie to your local police all you want the interrogation room… you can never lie to the FBI without charges if they find out
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:25 pm to jlovel7
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Do lots of people actually willingly talk to cops without one?
Yes. The number of people who don't know when to shut the hell up and ask for a lawyer is astonishing. Just. Shut. Up.
And it is the responsibility of the person being questioned to request a lawyer, even after they have been mirandized.
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:26 pm to jlovel7
Yeah, anyone who doesn't invoke their right to counsel can be questioned.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:26 pm to jlovel7
As a regular citizen who never interacts with cops, You’d think they we’re actually protecting and serving. Not framing people.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:26 pm to jlovel7
Never talk to police or anyone from government, including fbi.
Not without a warrant or subpoena, and then only with a lawyer.
Do you know why I stopped you? No? How fast were you going? That’s your job. You have radar. Do your job. Write a ticket or let me go.
Btw. When was the last time your radar was calibrated? When we’re you last trained on it?
Effin morons.
Not without a warrant or subpoena, and then only with a lawyer.
Do you know why I stopped you? No? How fast were you going? That’s your job. You have radar. Do your job. Write a ticket or let me go.
Btw. When was the last time your radar was calibrated? When we’re you last trained on it?
Effin morons.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:29 pm to lnomm34
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The interrogation tactics are also really interesting and most of the interrogators are really frickin good at making the criminal feel relaxed and speak pretty freely until they’re admitting the crime.
That's why you just never start talking.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:29 pm to jlovel7
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Do lots of people actually willingly talk to cops without one? Is this just a massive fib Hollywood always has to use to make the stories work and have interesting interrogations?
Happens more in real life than in Hollywood honestly. Most people think they can lie or talk their way out of something. People that commit a crime, also (ignorantly) believe that cops will think they are innocent if they don’t cry our lawyer.
Never, EVER speak to police or authorities about a serious crime without a lawyer, regardless of guilt.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:31 pm to Deplorableinohio
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Btw. When was the last time your radar was calibrated? When we’re you last trained on it?
This. I'm all for being polite and cooperating. However, if you want to know a cops true colors, start asking follow up questions in a traffic stop. They almost always escalate the situation.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:46 pm to jlovel7
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Do lots of people actually willingly talk to cops without one
Yes cops will do anything they can to make you talk. Most fall for the "why do you need a lawyer if you are innocent"
Only two things you should ever tell a cop is
1- I invoke the right to remain slient
2- I want to speak to a lawyer
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:47 pm to jlovel7
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Maybe this belongs on the MTV board but it seems like almost every crime show depends on totally ignoring having an attorney present when doing interrogation scenes.
My wife (no pics) watches Snapped and virtually everyone they ask to question goes willingly without an attorney. I think most folks believe they’re smarter than they actually are and think they can talk their way out of whatever the cops are asking.
I think you’re also assuming everyone questioned is under arrest. If you’re arrested you’re supposed to me Mirandized, but if they ask you to come in and answer questions to assist an investigation that’s on you to decline or bring an attorney.
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:48 pm to jlovel7
You have the right to remain silent
Posted on 9/14/23 at 8:03 pm to jlovel7
They can question you, lie to you, deceive you without an attorney unless you’re a minor or mentally unable…. But we hold the ultimate trump card in the 5th amendment
I’m sure there some weird situations that make things very grey
I’m sure there some weird situations that make things very grey
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