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re: Is The Economy really bad?

Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:46 pm to
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I'm not familiar with any of those places but they must be unicorns, because it contradicts every suburban housing trend in the country.



You're not familiar with Spokane, WA or Fayetteville, AR? Maybe the problem is you.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:47 pm to
That's an old menu. If you go to Starbucks.com, they don't even list prices. In fact, they don't even list the prices when you order in the app. You have to go to your cart to see how much it costs.

A Venti Salted Caramel Frappucino is $6.25 plus $0.66 tax, which comes out to $6.91. Basically $7.00.

A Venti Strawberry Refresher is $5.65. This is lemonade with a few strawberries in it. Add in the $0.59 in tax and you're at $6.24.

These items are ordered all day every day.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:48 pm to
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I'm not familiar with any of those places but they must be unicorns, because it contradicts every suburban housing trend in the country.


We’ve been building what sells, and what sells are homes that are often 50%-100% bigger than what boomers were buying 60-70 years ago. A smaller home is hard to find now. The inventory still mostly reflects what was built in the 1980s-2010s if you are in the south or the sunbelt.

The bigger, older cities still have some inventory that are smaller, but they are usually not affordable.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 12:51 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:49 pm to
Well, you did not say Fayetteville but regardless, why should I be?

If they are that well known, there's no way that they are still safe and affordable and with decent employment opportunity.

There are exceptions to everything of course but in 2025, you have to pick two of the three.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63578 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:49 pm to
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In fact, they don't even list the prices when you order in the app. You have to go to your cart to see how much it costs.


So they list the prices in the app.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:49 pm to
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They can't handle being told something was easier for their generation because they believe everything has gotten 10x easier for each generation after theirs.


I was lucky enough to not have to work more than part time in high school and college, my parents gave me My first vehicle and paid the gas and insurance, they helped me with college, etc, etc.

I’m not so fricking stupid and narcissistic to not realized that put me way ahead in the game. I still worked my arse and parlayed that opportunity to an even better chance to build wealth. There’s nothing wrong with that. I realize I had it A LOT easier than a lot of people and could focus my efforts onto thriving instead of surviving.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40316 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:50 pm to
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A Venti Salted Caramel Frappucino is $6.25 plus $0.66 tax, which comes out to $6.91. Basically $7.00.

A Venti Strawberry Refresher is $5.65. This is lemonade with a few strawberries in it. Add in the $0.59 in tax and you're at $6.24.


massive drinks that aren't even coffee

And yes, the menu i posted is from 2025 in Houston. It is hard to get menu's online because it varies from location to location
Posted by PalletJack
LA by birth, TX by choice
Member since Oct 2024
1064 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:51 pm to
No bidding can be an indicator of fearing expansion.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:51 pm to
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You're not familiar with Spokane, WA or Fayetteville, AR? Maybe the problem is you.


Spokane is a fricking shithole where you’re either military, on meth, or both
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6413 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:53 pm to
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It's really wild seeing people cheering on tariffs and thinking that we're not paying for it.


They know. They just can’t say it out loud
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
72070 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:54 pm to
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These items are ordered all day every day.


Clearly Starbucks is bankrupting the youth of our nation.

I could give my wife, the most stereotypical suburban housewife ever made, free reign to spend as much as she wanted at Starbucks for an entire year and I doubt it would exceed $3,000.

Its not the coffee. Its not the Netflix. Its not even the nice cars preventing young people from building wealth. Its outside forces beyond the control of the average person, and I dont understand why its so fricking hard for yall to admit that these young people are not being dealt a good hand.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:57 pm to
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400k house is affordable now


Shouldn’t be this way, but $250k-400k is kind of middle of the market for residential in my area. And COL here is considered very low.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42259 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:59 pm to
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I brew most my own coffee and it’s less than .50 a cup.


Wife (pics aren't uploading for some reason) wants an espresso maker for our anniversary. Looked it up... $1800
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
18479 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:59 pm to
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Spokane is a fricking shithole


Downtown and the old sections, yes, but the Valley, South Hill, CDA, Post Falls, 5 Mile and Liberty Lake are all very nice.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
14116 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:01 pm to
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I could give my wife, the most stereotypical suburban housewife ever made, free reign to spend as much as she wanted at Starbucks for an entire year and I doubt it would exceed $3,000.

Its not the coffee. Its not the Netflix. Its not even the nice cars preventing young people from building wealth. Its outside forces beyond the control of the average person, and I dont understand why its so fricking hard for yall to admit that these young people are not being dealt a good hand.
Yep, coffee is a marginal expense. The last 5 years of inflation and specifically two major costs even far outpacing general inflation and wages (education and housing) are enormous impediments to wealth building for young adults. Really at this point unless you have help/inheritance or are an exceptionally high earner, it's almost impossible to save the same as your parents did on a relative basis.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 1:03 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60600 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:06 pm to
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Those charts read that way because the kids are spoiled pussies driving $100k Yukons
I know a decent amount of pretty successful late 20s early 30s people and expensive cars are pretty uncommon. Millennials don’t care about vehicles nearly as much as previous generations
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Member since Aug 2014
11643 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:06 pm to
Spokane is a shithole.

But it's home to the best boot makers in the world. White's, Nick's and JK. If youre in Spokane, it's worth checking them out and then hauling arse to CDA.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40316 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:08 pm to
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I know a decent amount of pretty successful late 20s early 30s people and expensive cars are pretty uncommon. Millennials don’t care about vehicles nearly as much as previous generations



who can afford it. Damn used 4runner i want is 35k with 60k miles on it
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25907 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:10 pm to
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who can afford it. Damn used 4runner i want is 35k with 60k miles on


Vehicle price inflation is out of control. Bought my wife a brand new Eddie Bauer edition ford expedition in 2007 for $35k. Similar vehicle today is $80k
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60600 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:12 pm to
This is purely anecdotal but since I’ve joined the working world, I’ve noticed most married, gen x or older people have nicer, late model cars even if they’re not in a high earning position.

Like I said, purely anecdotal, but it seems to me like younger people are a lot more open to driving a shitty car, even if they can afford something much nicer.
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