re: Is society actually healthier since cigarette smoking was restricted / banned?

Women are drinking hundreds of calories a day from Starbucks. Remember the 70s was about when the low fat thing started, so it was bagels for breakfast instead of eggs and bacon with toast.

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People are drinking much less.

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Replaced with consumption of other drugs.

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People are using tobacco much less.

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Correct.

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Earlier detection of cancers, much better treatment options; cancer deaths continue to fall

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Correct. But not a measure of health, but a measure of medical advancement.

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Lifespan expantcy recently raised to 79.0.

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Correct. But not immediately correlated to health of a society. Obviously it is a factor to a degree. To what degree, I can't answer. But I could make an educated guess that this is mostly due to medical advancements, particularly in infant mortality.

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What facts is your opinion based on?

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Obesity rates.

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Are you suggesting that Fat smokers would be healthier than plain fatties?

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One could argue the fat smokers would be dead. Therefore society would be healthier by thinning the herd.

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el Gaucho

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You almost got me this time.

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Remember the 70s was about when the low fat thing started,

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The good ole days....when you could tell someone that if they're trying to lose weight they should get Ayds.

If there were logical drug laws in this country alcohol would be a CDS scheduled drug, maybe schedule as I cant think of a medical use that cant be taken care of with another drug.

200K Americans die each year from alcohol. Thousands killed on the road, violent confrontations, domestic abuse etc.

I'm not saying it should be but thats just a fact. You can straight up go buy a drug that causes dangerous side effects, you can OD on it, it is addictive etc.

Didn't life expectancy just go up a couple of years, recently.

Def less school shootings when schools had smoking areas.

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I think it's very likely that a large part of the anxiety pandemic is due to people no longer smoking.

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When smoking was originally cracked down on by the SG in the late 60s, it kicked off the "mother's little helper" era. By the mid/late 70s, something like 2 in 3 women were on Valium.

I stand by my claim: smoking reduces anxiety. Population wide, that matters probably way more than whatever number of lung cancer deaths happen as a result.