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re: Is Gen Z etc totally out of touch about salaries?

Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by Jsand43
Member since May 2021
882 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:01 pm to
Yeah you came a little bit before me. My generation was told go to college or die LOL. So I went for free and graduated smack dab in the middle of a recession. I I have my daughter when I turn 21. I was going to college full time and working three jobs to make ends meet and take care of my family. After college I couldn't find anything of substance so I started working construction. I had to bartend for the next 3 years at night while working a full-time job to make ends meet. But my generation is soft lol.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138899 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:01 pm to
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The company I work for, a Fortune 500 company, is hiring an entry level position in their Houston area warehouse.
If they haven't done so, they should monetize benefits in an alternative all-cash, no bene comp pkg. Those are especially attractive in households where the partner has a decent benefit pkg already.
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:01 pm to
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I can truthfully say I've "been there, done that,


No, you can't.

quote:

this has been fun baws


Embarrassing yourself has been fun for you?
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3833 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:02 pm to
If you are having difficulty filling that position at that rate and with those benefits, then YES, the rate is TOO LOW.

Supply/Demand.

We have had a pretty severe shortage of nurses aids, and this is because the hospital refuses to offer more than $16/hr.

Where I live you can make $16/hr at Dunkin + tips.

Why would you wipe asses and get physically assaulted by Geri-psych patients for $16/hr?

You can thanks Inflation and the politicians who caused it for the current situation, but that’s the way it is.
Posted by Jsand43
Member since May 2021
882 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:03 pm to
Bucees pays cashiers $15 to $20 an hour
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299586 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:03 pm to
Unions, transportation are hiring and will train, pay good wages all over the country. shite, mines pay 120k avg and cant get workers, and its pretty easy work

Thise are wages beyond living wages.

Theres no excuse. Jobs everywhere, just takes a little effort and they pay well.

But some dont want solutions.


But those require work. If you want a good payong job theres no reason why you cant.

Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53534 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:05 pm to
Inflation is much higher than the government reports. Even before Covid. When they report that it's 3% it's really 6%
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111439 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:05 pm to
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Unions, transportation are hiring and will train, pay good wages all over the country. shite, mines pay 120k avg and cant get workers, and its pretty easy work Thise are wages beyond living wages. Theres no excuse. Jobs everywhere, just takes a little effort and they pay well. But some dont want solutions. But those require work. If you want a good payong job theres no reason why you cant.
You can continue to be hard headed and wrong all day if you would like

Fact remains, in terms of housing, the biggest factor in wealth creation for Americans throughout our history, wages are at the weakest they have ever been, even weaker than the Great Depression
Posted by AtlanticTigerMan
Member since May 2022
20 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:06 pm to
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Yeah you came a little bit before me. My generation was told go to college or die LOL. So I went for free and graduated smack dab in the middle of a recession. I I have my daughter when I turn 21. I was going to college full time and working three jobs to make ends meet and take care of my family. After college I couldn't find anything of substance so I started working construction. I had to bartend for the next 3 years at night while working a full-time job to make ends meet. But my generation is soft lol.


If there's one thing Gen Z has hopefully learned it's that college is not some free ticket ride guaranteed to end in crazy wealth for not doing a lot of work.

Being an older millennial I also fell right into the "go to college or have fun working at fast food places your whole life" type speech. And of course I graduated in 2007 right into a recession. Didn't even use my HR Management degree until 2011.

Hopefully Gen Z is being encouraged more to go to college if they have a true career path/goal but if not to consider trade schools.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59271 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:07 pm to
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Bucees pays cashiers $15 to $20 an hour


Managers over 30.00 plus an hour

Bucees gets it
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66097 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:09 pm to
At least they trying to work unlike 50% of the country
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:10 pm to
Sounds like a lot of poor people in the next 20 years.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:11 pm to
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started with my company in 1984 for $1500/mo. living in New York City, ain't no hiding from that, it was tough
That was tough? For some perspective, since you clearly need it, imagine how tough it would have been on about $850 a month.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8118 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:16 pm to
Depends on where it is located. Here in AR that is lower end pay but a lot of good benefits. If it's in a major city you aren't going to be able to cover your basic bills with that. It probably seems like a good deal starting out for you because when you were starting out it was. With the labor market being what it is, that isn't as great of an offer as you think it is.

They could go wait tables, work 30 hours a week and make almost double without the benefits (which many young people don't give a shite about).
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
5053 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:18 pm to
They don’t care about retirement because everyone will be on a social credit program by the time they’re 70.

They’ll likely also be put out to pasture around that time.
Posted by Jsand43
Member since May 2021
882 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:18 pm to
I'm definitely encouraging my kids to avoid college unless they have a solid plan
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:19 pm to
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Are these people retarded? 


No, they're young.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53534 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:20 pm to
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They could go wait tables, work 30 hours a week and make almost double without the benefits (which many young people don't give a shite about).

It is funny that benefits don't matter when you are young and are important when you get older. I turned down a pretty intriguing job offer recently because the benefits weren't close to what I have now.
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 1:24 pm
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14811 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:21 pm to
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Are you? Someone making $15/hr has no capacity to save any meaningful amount of money. Most of them have big student loan payments and rent is at record levels.


Not a position needing college. He said high school grad. Good for entry
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12833 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:22 pm to
After reading through this thread I can tell you that the money you make compared to your reading comprehension/critical thinking abilites is way off

With your current level you probably deserve about 15 an hour. It's on par with high school kids
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