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re: Is child care/daycare innately expensive? What can society do to reduce *cost* of it?
Posted on 12/11/25 at 6:14 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 12/11/25 at 6:14 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Daycare has been expensive for decades
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Posted on 12/11/25 at 6:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Govt subsidizing childcare will make it more affordable. Look what it did for college and healthcare!?!?!
Posted on 12/11/25 at 6:17 pm to LemmyLives
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Everybody is "allergic" to anything their precious doesn't prefer
This used to just be called "getting diarrhea."
Posted on 12/11/25 at 6:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
We keep an Au Pair to halp nanny out kids
But then we turn around and still send our toddlers to expensive catholic daycares half the day while the au pair is on the clock
But then we turn around and still send our toddlers to expensive catholic daycares half the day while the au pair is on the clock
Posted on 12/11/25 at 6:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Promote married couples with mothers staying home and fathers working.
What can society do to reduce *cost* of it?
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I made it sharper by having a stay at home wife. I wasn’t interested in paying someone to raise our children.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
They can do what they’re supposed to do. The woman stays home and raise the children. Day care is child abuse. Young children need to be raised at home by their mother. Feminists convincing women they need to have a career is one of the sickest mind tricks ever played on humans. And their “career” is just some crappy job that she hates anyway. Then people whine about the cost because her crappy job barely cover the cost. And politicians use it as a political football.
My kids never spent one minute in day care being raised by Shameka.
My kids never spent one minute in day care being raised by Shameka.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 10:26 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
You just have to reprioritize what’s valuable to you.
This was in the 90’s. When my wife had our first child, she was a retail store manager and didn’t make great money. We knew we wanted our children to be close in age so planned on her getting pregnant again within the next 1-2 years. After doing the math and subtracting what would eventually be childcare expense for two from her pay, it just didn’t make much sense for her to go back to work. She would have earned more than childcare cost but we saw more value in her being a SAHM and how that would benefit our kids in the long run. I picked up some side work and we lived very frugally and in a modest home but would not go back and change a thing. She ended up staying home for seven years. Once both kids were in school, she went back to work part time doing merchandising so that she could drop them off and pick them up from school. This allowed me to drop my side job. By the time they were in middle school she took a job as the manager of a fitness center, which she still does to this day. And of course I kept growing in my career as well. Our kids turned out great, are well adjusted adults now.
My grandkids are in daycare because my kids are not willing to live the level of lifestyle that would be required for the moms to stay home. It’s a little different for them because my daughter is an OT and my daughter in law is a dental hygienist and both make a substantially larger portion of their families total income than what my wife had but I wish they would.
This was in the 90’s. When my wife had our first child, she was a retail store manager and didn’t make great money. We knew we wanted our children to be close in age so planned on her getting pregnant again within the next 1-2 years. After doing the math and subtracting what would eventually be childcare expense for two from her pay, it just didn’t make much sense for her to go back to work. She would have earned more than childcare cost but we saw more value in her being a SAHM and how that would benefit our kids in the long run. I picked up some side work and we lived very frugally and in a modest home but would not go back and change a thing. She ended up staying home for seven years. Once both kids were in school, she went back to work part time doing merchandising so that she could drop them off and pick them up from school. This allowed me to drop my side job. By the time they were in middle school she took a job as the manager of a fitness center, which she still does to this day. And of course I kept growing in my career as well. Our kids turned out great, are well adjusted adults now.
My grandkids are in daycare because my kids are not willing to live the level of lifestyle that would be required for the moms to stay home. It’s a little different for them because my daughter is an OT and my daughter in law is a dental hygienist and both make a substantially larger portion of their families total income than what my wife had but I wish they would.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 11:35 pm to Kingshakabooboo
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Kingshakabooboo
Just really depends on the values that were established by the parents.
My wife and I did the stay at home for three years.
She's had to work her whole life since 13 because her family grew up real poor. My parents just forced me to work around 14
My wife was dying to go back to work after 3 years. All three with out daughter, only one with our son ha.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 12/12/25 at 2:25 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
If is purely for babysitting, find a Mexican lady you trust. I have a family member that did that with a neighbor.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:15 am to PurpleDragon
quote:Muahahahahaha
And this is because of lawyers, but..... Because just about everyone in congress is a lawyer, a law will never be passed to rein them in. Therefore, prices go up.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 5:31 am to Cosmo
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Mom needs to stay home and take care of kids, clean house, cook, etc
A parent doing this helps if the parent's income wouldn't dwarf the childcare expense and provide a life that would be so beneficial it would outweigh the cons of daycare.
For most people, it makes more sense for a parent to be home to look after the kids for the first 5-6 years.
Doesn't have to be mom.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 5:33 am to notsince98
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They can but science has shown men biologically aren’t made for it and are rather terrible at it add this that at super high rates women file for divorce when they make more money than the man.
What a cop out.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 5:43 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Multi-Generational living
Posted on 12/12/25 at 6:06 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
We lived in NYC with our first two kids and then moved out when we had our third. My wife and I both work so we decided to go the nanny route. It was by far our biggest expense second only to the mortgage
Posted on 12/12/25 at 6:19 am to notsince98
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but science has shown men biologically aren’t made for it
Can you link us this research?
Posted on 12/12/25 at 6:24 am to Clark W Griswold
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If you look at cost per hour daycare is very cheap. We used to pay $125 a week for an awesome daycare at a church. Moved and the new one was $160. Then $180. It sucked to pay it but for $4 an hour it’s tough to say it’s expensive.
When was this and where was this?
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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Can you link us this research?
Any search engine will suffice. Start with the topic of hormone production in the brains male vs female when it comes to things like consoling a crying baby. Both men and women's brains produce the same hormone in the interaction but they produce the hormone in different areas of the brain which results in differing ways that fathers and mothers interact with children. It is a similar result for just about all interactions with their child. The child needs both types of interaction but when it comes to prolonged supervision/interaction, the results are better with moms than dads. The emotional learning that kids get from mothers takes more time and practice. The physical and leadership learning from the fathers requires less time.
This post was edited on 12/12/25 at 8:06 am
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:03 am to notsince98
Can't do that and pay for travel ball, the wife's AT4 SUV and the exotic trips to Disney, baw.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:13 am to TheFitfulFire
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the so-called "traditional family model" of SAHM and working father
You are leaving out the grandparents in Snipes argument. They play a key role, and would live with you.
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