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re: Is "23 and Me" Pandora's Box?!

Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:18 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:18 am to
Pic of OP’s grandma:

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:19 am to
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Some of us just don't want the Government or anyone else in our business



your phone knows more about you than any government


Yep

In terms of privacy invasion, they aren't in the same stratosphere. If people are really worried about their DNA being mapped to them via their relatives that submit to 23 And Me and the government getting that information, they should probably shut off their phones immediately.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:22 am to
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your phone knows more about you than any government

Not really



Yeah, it does.

It literally listens to you all day. It knows your bank account balances, what time you wake up and go to bed, where you shop, who you visit with, what you email about, details about your health, etc.

They then take all this data and have algorithms that develop profiles into your political leanings, social views, tendencies, etc.

Unless you have a flip phone burner, in which case, never mind you're good.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
56107 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:29 am to
I'm sorry that your family is trashy.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5372 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:30 am to
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In terms of privacy invasion, they aren't in the same stratosphere.


What's more private then your own DNA? Like I said they probably dont do anything nefarious with it.

But being able to know a population's DNA based on the 5% that submitted to the test is the ultimate invasion of privacy. Its not right to know my medical history because a relative did the test.

That's not even considering the fine print that 23 and me can sell your profile for research purposes. Also hacking the data of companies like 23 and me is a consideration as well. We are at the infancy of DNA testing and profiling, there is no telling where this pandora box all leads, but I know I'm not comfortable with anybody having the most private part of me in a database because my dumbass cousin wanted to do the test.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
56107 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:33 am to
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He might have a trip wire set up with claymore waiting. Once the government is bleeding out on his lawn, he scurries from behind the hedges and kicks them in the nuts.


ALWAYS a good plan, especially the kick in the nutz part.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:37 am to
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Its not right to know my medical history because a relative did the test.


That would be physically impossible.

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but I know I'm not comfortable with anybody having the most private part of me in a database because my dumbass cousin wanted to do the test.


They can "guess" what your DNA "might" look like from your cousin, but that is about it.

Unless both your parents submit, you're fine bub.

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What's more private then your own DNA? Like I said they probably dont do anything nefarious with it.


It sounds private, but its really not. They can't do nefarious things with it and DNA doesn't reveal things like your sins (herpes and alcoholism). Plus, I could follow you for a couple hours and probably get your DNA from trash, spit, sweat, etc. if I (or government) actually wanted to.

Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10383 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:41 am to
A friend of mine learned of a 1/2 sister. They are happily friends now.
Posted by Kujo
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:42 am to
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Congrats on having your DNA in a massive government database now.


This is the least of my concerns.



I'm trying to use an example of how new technology would have been handled in the past with similar conspiracy worry.

"Abraham, they want to give roads names, and our houses numbers. They say it's to deliver us letters from loved ones, but it's a conspiracy so that they can track us like hound dogs!"
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:42 am to
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They are happily married now.


roll tide!
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14788 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:45 am to
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thside Congrats on having your DNA in a massive government database now. Oh, and congrats on that other stuff too.


Remind me of why people do this stuff? Seems to cause way more problems than good.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49099 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:45 am to
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Voted OT's most likely to discover 4 additional kids after taking a 23 and Me DNA test.


Facts is facts.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:46 am to
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I'm trying to use an example of how new technology would have been handled in the past with similar conspiracy worry.

"Abraham, they want to give roads names, and our houses numbers. They say it's to deliver us letters from loved ones, but it's a conspiracy so that they can track us like hound dogs!"



The lack of people freaking out about their phones is what jumps out.

The other day I was at the pediatrician's office, with my phone locked and in my pocket, and I said "cool painting" about a print on the wall. I didn't describe it or take a picture.

An hour later I had an instragram ad for that exact painting print. The painting was geotagged and my phone heard me mention it, an algorithm connected those location dots and my words and tried to sell it to me.

shite is crazy.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49099 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:47 am to
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Well who is your new famous aunt

Please be Jenna Jameson.
Posted by Kujo
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Member since Dec 2015
6044 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:47 am to
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"Abraham, they want to give roads names, and our houses numbers. They say it's to deliver us letters from loved ones, but it's a conspiracy so that they can track us like hound dogs!"


Jed, it's Abraham, did you hear about the "tele phone" they are trying to get everyone to use? They just want to listen in to your conversations! Don't fall for it!"
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
17533 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:48 am to
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And as far as the posts about loose living and trashy family. There isn't a single thing that could surprise me about my family. I am trash, we've been this way since the day my family came off the boat in the 1850s. Mafia, Prostitution, Murder, Embezzlement, and any other heinous crimes you can think of my family(on both sides) has been and still is a part of. From Boston to Chicago to NOLA. It is what it is, IDGAF.


Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184471 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:58 am to
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I saw on one of the news shows last night that a woman tried 23andme and found like 29 half siblings




Her dad is Travis Henry?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184471 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 10:03 am to
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It sounds private, but its really not. They can't do nefarious things with it and DNA doesn't reveal things like your sins (herpes and alcoholism). Plus, I could follow you for a couple hours and probably get your DNA from trash, spit, sweat, etc. if I (or government) actually wanted to.



Forget where but police just solved a 30 year old murder like this using a napkin after following a guy to a public auction.

If they want it they will get it. If you don't commit any crimes there isn't really a concern with Gov having your DNA and I am a small Gov guy. I just think it's an irrational fear.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61691 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 10:11 am to
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e lack of people freaking out about their phones is what jumps out.

The other day I was at the pediatrician's office, with my phone locked and in my pocket, and I said "cool painting" about a print on the wall. I didn't describe it or take a picture.

An hour later I had an instragram ad for that exact painting print. The painting was geotagged and my phone heard me mention it, an algorithm connected those location dots and my words and tried to sell it to me.

I have. a hard time with this.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 10:13 am to
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The government fears over this stuff are ridiculous. Cracks me up when people are legitimately concerned about it.



If one of my family members goes to jail over a murder or rape they committed because of 23 and Me, that's on them for being a piece of shite.
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