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Iowa Homeowner Says His Swastika & Confederate Flags Are Not Racist

Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:08 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113889 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:08 pm
quote:

DES MOINES, Iowa - A homeowner living next to an elementary school in Iowa is facing backlash for painting Confederate battle flags and swastikas on pallets around his property. The symbols are clearly visible from the school.

"It's a free country," William Stark said. "I'll put it out there if I want to."

He added that people shouldn't construe the painted pallets as racist.

But Morris Elementary in Des Moines disagreed and released a statement denouncing Stark's display. School officials say the students, who are about 60% nonwhite, see the symbols when arriving and leaving the school and even from the playground.

"They don't know their history, evidently," Stark said. "That's the only reason I can think of that they can think anything bad about it—they don't know their history."

Meg Viola, a school parent, said the swastika is a symbol of white supremacism and is racist, offensive, and disgusting.

"It'd really be nice if they just take the stuff down," Viola said.

But Stark said he has no plans to do so.

City officials labeled his property a nuisance earlier this year.

"What they have posted out there is not teaching our children to be inclusive and to love everyone," Viola said.


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Look, its his property, he can put whatever he wants out. But at least own up to who you are. A fricking swastika? People lost their life fighting to prevent the spread of what that symbol came to represent. But again, he has the right to put it up.
Posted by loopback
Member since Jul 2011
4859 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:10 pm to
Sounds like you don't know your history either.
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18296 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:11 pm to
Yeah, I'm not big on someone putting a swastika up, no matter the situation. That shite might get his arse whipped.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

"It's a free country," William Stark said. "I'll put it out there if I want to."

End of argument
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51809 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:12 pm to
frick people on both the left and right who do shite like this for attention and reactions.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64378 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

"It's a free country," William Stark said. "I'll put it out there if I want to."



He’s clearly a racist. But this statement from him is all that matters. I think he’s dead wrong in his views. But he has the right to express views that are dead wrong, especially on this own property.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:14 pm to
Slightly on topic.

How badass would Axis and Allies be as a backyard sized game?

I'm jealous of those Settlers of Catan backyard sets.



Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
COINTELPRO Fan
Member since May 2012
55546 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:15 pm to
I didn’t knew there were OT edgelords in Iowa
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

"They don't know their history, evidently," Stark said. "That's the only reason I can think of that they can think anything bad about it—they don't know their history."



Pretty crappy reporting to not follow up on this statement.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28805 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

"It's a free country," William Stark said. "I'll put it out there if I want to."

End of argument



no argument. government has no right to tell him to take that down.

that being said, i won't shed a tear when that dude has his arse beat and the offending parties are duly punished.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113889 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Sounds like you don't know your history either.


I know the history of the swastika, it didn't always represent the nazi party. But don't give me that shite about not knowing the history of the swastika.

What do most people think when they see the swastika? And the confederate flag and swastika is associated with white supremacy.

If you are not a racist, you don't do yourself any favors by putting out the swastika along with the confederate flag. That's the perception.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17952 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

People lost their life fighting to prevent the spread of what that symbol came to represent.


So it doesn't matter what it meant before then?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:18 pm to
They're not.

He may be though.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6438 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:20 pm to
Whatever happened to, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" ?
Posted by USMCTIGER1970
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2017
2371 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:20 pm to
If you are flying a Swastika it is, what it is, so don't try to deny it! I have a different feeling about the flag. It was not meant to be a symbol of racism, it was meant to symbolize the south and southern heritage during the Civil War. The problem is that it has been commandeered by hate groups and used as symbol of their beliefs. The problem is that people that want to fly the flag for its intended purpose, don't say anything when something that appears to be so important to them is corrupted.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:22 pm to
The swastika was a symbol before the nazis
Posted by USMCTIGER1970
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2017
2371 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Sounds like you don't know your history either.


Wow you watched the Divinci Code!!
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9081 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Whatever happened to, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" ?


Cultural Marxism
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:24 pm to
quote:


So it doesn't matter what it meant before then?

Not really
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
7698 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:25 pm to
Slightly same topic. The cadets with the circle fingers on gameday now means white power? When I was a kid if you looked you got to take a punch in the arm. People are mad saying it’s racist but I’ve asked and no one will tell me when it started meaning white power. Anyone on here know?
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