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re: Iowa Homeowner Says His Swastika & Confederate Flags Are Not Racist
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:25 pm to USMCTIGER1970
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:25 pm to USMCTIGER1970
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I have a different feeling about the flag. It was not meant to be a symbol of racism, it was meant to symbolize the south and southern heritage during the Civil War.
The flag he's using was barely used during the Civil War. It was resurrected by the Daughters of the Confederacy in the early 1900's and adopted by Southern segregationists around the same time. It's always been a symbol of racism.
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:25 pm to notsince98
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So it doesn't matter what it meant before then?
When you google "what does the swastika represent" this is the first thing you get.
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t was used by the Nazi Party to symbolize German nationalistic pride. To Jews and the enemies of Nazi Germany, it became a symbol of antisemitism and terror. In many Western countries, the swastika is viewed as a symbol of racial supremacism and intimidation because of its association with Nazism.
It once represented the north pole right? And before pre-WW2 it had several meanings.. But i doubt that's what the guy is wanting to represent.
If you are going to put it up, at least tell people exactly what you are representing. Don't hide behind the whole "they don't know their history" bullshite..
When you see the swastika what exactly do you see?
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:26 pm to Caplewood
Like the Celtic Cross
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:27 pm to OweO
They shouldn’t have built a school next to a trailer park
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:27 pm to Caplewood
I know that Jam Box! What is it most known for Hero? Don't try to be the smartest guy in the room.
History of Swastika
History of Swastika
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:31 pm to USMCTIGER1970
I saw a swastika on a house in Berkeley California last time I was there
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:32 pm to BlackAdam
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Whatever happened to, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" ?
I said it is his property, he has the right to do whatever he wants. I have felt the same way when Kaepernick was protesting by kneeling. It is their right to do these things. All I am saying is that at least own up to what you do. Don't put these symbols up and then hide behind "people dont know their history".
Again, it is his right to put it up.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:34 pm to USMCTIGER1970
So in your opinion, which meaning do you think he wanted to represent?
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:36 pm to Darth_Vader
he looks unemployable. how on earth will anyone be able to dox him?
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:42 pm to loopback
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Sounds like you don't know your history either.
The history of two racist organizations adopting those symbols?
Symbols are given meaning by people and the institutions who adopted these symbols changed how they are viewed by history.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:42 pm to OweO
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Iowa Homeowner Says His Swastika & Confederate Flags Are Not Racist
Why do this?? Just fly the first national flag or the Bonnie Blue which is the actual first flag of the Confederacy.
This guy only wants attention.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:44 pm to OweO
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Look, its his property, he can put whatever he wants out. But at least own up to who you are.
I bet you have an a-hole for a yard ornament.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:47 pm to 3nOut
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no argument. government has no right to tell him to take that down.
Yet
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that being said, i won't shed a tear when that dude has his arse beat and the offending parties are duly punished.
For exercising his right to expression? Yeah frick that
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:48 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:what are his views?
I think he’s dead wrong in his views.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:19 pm to Wtodd
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For exercising his right to expression? Yeah frick that
no i fully recognize his right to expression. i don't think anybody should do anything to him because of it.
when you're an a-hole with those rights, you shouldn't expect the government to do anything about it, but people can choose to violate you because of it. i don't approve of it and i said i think they should be duly punished for that as well.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:22 pm to OweO
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:23 pm to OweO
Kaep was doing it on someone else's property, in the time they are paying for, in their uniform. Not getting on toy about it. Just pointing out a difference here. Had Kaep done it all on his own time I would have said more power to him. I dknt have to like it but I agree with your right to do it
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:23 pm to 3nOut
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but people can choose to violate you because of it.
By ignoring him yeah but not with violence.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:23 pm to notsince98
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So it doesn't matter what it meant before then?
Don't tilt it 45 degrees.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:24 pm to USMCTIGER1970
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It was not meant to be a symbol of racism
It was a symbol of the Confederate Army who fought for slavery
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It was not meant to be a symbol of racism,
It has become one
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