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re: Iowa Homeowner Says His Swastika & Confederate Flags Are Not Racist

Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:25 pm to
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It was not meant to be a symbol of racism,

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It has become one

So has the color of my skin
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57438 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:27 pm to
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It was a symbol of the Confederate Army who fought for slavery

Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:29 pm to
Yea sorry Confederate flag, okay. Swastikas are done. No excuse for it.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:30 pm to
He was and still is with him!
Posted by Kcprogguitar
Kansas City
Member since Oct 2014
889 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:33 pm to
I saw a picture of a guy who painted A&A on his basement floor and carved (I think) the playing pieces.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
15349 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:33 pm to
Political Talk would 100% back this guy up. But he’s clearly doing it to he an arse, no other reason. Yeah he has free speech but that stuff is uncalled for.

Also, what the hell is a damnyankee doing with a Confederate Flag? Stop appropriating our culture.
This post was edited on 12/16/19 at 1:37 pm
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21842 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:34 pm to
I'll give a shite about this when progressives stop lauding communism.
This post was edited on 12/16/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:36 pm to
The Confederate flag has come to represent racism in the same way that the rainbow has come to represent homosexuality.

You can tell me all about the history of light refractory, maybe your great uncle knew Rainbow Bright, I am probably being prejudice against your choices. However, everyone will assume you are gay if you are sporting the rainbows on the back of your F150.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49264 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:38 pm to
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Iowa Homeowner Says His Swastika & Confederate Flags Are Not Racist
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Ah yes the flags that are synonymous with genocide and slavery are not racist
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:41 pm to
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Political Talk would 100% back this guy up
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:44 pm to
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Political Talk would 100% back this guy up.


I’m sure he posts there.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68305 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:50 pm to
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Kaepernick


completely different. he was doing that on someone else's field while working.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25624 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:16 pm to
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People are mad saying it’s racist but I’ve asked and no one will tell me when it started meaning white power.


It started in 2017 on 4Chan... go figure. It was called operation O-KKK or something like that. They decided to flood the internet with the idea it now stands for white power, the three fingers make a W and the circle represents power.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51586 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:41 pm to
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Look, its his property, he can put whatever he wants out. But at least own up to who you are. A fricking swastika? People lost their life fighting to prevent the spread of what that symbol came to represent. But again, he has the right to put it up.


+1

The more people give him attention, the more justified he's going to feel in doing it.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29506 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:47 pm to
That symbol was around for centuries before Adolf Hitler and his cronies adopted it for their regime.

It’s all about the interpretation of WHY someone is using/displaying it and who gets upset about it, which this day and age, seems to be everybody.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22529 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:53 pm to
Ever since WWII it has become recognized primarily as a symbol of the Nazis. It’s not like this guy was around sporting it before that happened. I’m not going to blame somebody for thinking he’s racist because he put that up. Just like someone said, if you sport a rainbow flag people will think you’re gay, this is no different.

If he’s putting it up for other reasons then being a Nazi supporter, he can specify what that reason is then just saying “know your history”.

That being said, while he’s an attention whore and most likely racist, he can keep it up because it’s his property
This post was edited on 12/16/19 at 2:55 pm
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:54 pm to
Does free speech exist or not?


There is no such thing as hate speech. Speech is either completely free or it is not. Limitation and restriction on speech is simple infringement on the inalienable right to freedom of speech and expression.


So

Which is it?

Our society is on dangerous ground when we create arguments to strip ourselves of these rights.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51272 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:58 pm to
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That symbol was around for centuries before Adolf Hitler and his cronies adopted it for their regime.

It’s all about the interpretation of WHY someone is using/displaying it and who gets upset about it, which this day and age, seems to be everybody.


Clearly the guy is just a Hindu expressing his faith.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36023 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:59 pm to
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Political Talk would 100% back this guy up. But he’s clearly doing it to he an arse, no other reason. Yeah he has free speech but that stuff is uncalled for. 


The constitution protects an arse's right to express himself. It doesn't protect your right to not be offended. This guy should be able to fly whatever he damn well pleases on his property.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:59 pm to
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That symbol was around for centuries before Adolf Hitler and his cronies adopted it for their regime.



Black swastika on a white background tilted 45 degrees.

That narrows it down to the Nazi swastika.

If the guy wanted to start a history lesson he picked the wrong swastika to do it.
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