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Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:21 pm to
Posted by jafari rastaman
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:21 pm to
I only call my grandpa “pawpaw”. Has anybody spoken to this man’s kin?
Posted by real turf fan
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:27 pm to
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His aunt and several friends described Paul as a good person


The one I remember was a long time family friend and ?partner of AM who was among those called by AM after the murders and before the police showed up.

He was there until 2 or3 in the morning, and then went back the next day. He said he saw a part of Paul's skull left on the feeding room floor and soft matter, too, and it made him furious that a good boy had been so disrespected.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:28 pm to
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His aunt



Look, maybe he had a few friends that said he was nice. But a ton of friends said he was a horrible person. And he tried to frame his BEST friend for the death of one of their female best friends in the boating accident. He told investigators that the BEST FRIEND was driving to save his own arse. And it was a complete lie. And he did it without telling his friend.

And he did that when he was stone cold sober after the killing. What “nice” person does that?
Posted by gravy553
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:39 pm to
He will get life in prison for all of the financial stuff. Believe I heard that just 3 of the counts would give him life….there’s like 80 or 90 something counts.
Posted by clownbaby
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:43 pm to
So what is the point of putting more time and resources into the flimsy murder case?

Is there the death penalty in S.C.?

Keep him away from her estate?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:48 pm to
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That works both ways. South Carolina might be the oddest state in America. Most people don't know because we're a relatively small and irrelevant state, but the natives are what we used to call fire-eaters. We fought the Indians. We fought the British crown. We fought the Yankees. We don't like outsiders. And as critical as Louisiana folks are of their own state, South Carolinians are equally as prideful. A large percentage of natives here absolutely despise outsiders. There's a reason Murdaugh's defense didn't ask for a change of venue and it has nothing to do with actual legal intricacies. They're banking on the nativism and orneriness of South Carolinians to hang that jury.


I had a history professor used to go on about poor North Carolina being stuck between the two most arrogant states in the South, SC and Virginia.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:52 pm to
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So what is the point of putting more time and resources into the flimsy murder case?


Justice?
A benefit would also be defanging of a family that has been running Colleton and Hampton counties for more than 100 years.
These people leave destruction in their wake.
I think that it’s safe to say that there are multiple deaths that they are responsible for since the first Murdaugh.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:54 pm to
Are the sentences for the financial crimes mandatory, or left up to a judge? That could make a huge difference. Plus you have to consider the appeal process and getting thrown out on some silly technicality. Also, governors can pardon.

Once things cool off, and hearing the generational allies this family has, I’m not sure I’d trust the system. Maybe they feel like murder convictions would hold up better?
Posted by kj993
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
541 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:04 pm to
Last year, the prosecution offered Alex Murdaugh a plea deal of 30 years for the double homicide case and all 90 financial crimes. Alex rejected the deal because he said he would not plead guilty to killing his wife and son. That has stayed with me. Could it be just his narcissism? Sure. But 30 years is likely less than what he will receive even if he’s found non guilty to the Murders.
Posted by gravy553
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:11 pm to
CourtTV reporting some of the jurors were crying during Alex’s direct testimony. Welp, at least the state tried.
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 7:12 pm
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:12 pm to
Everything I’ve seen or heard about Paul shows he was an arse and not too many people like him. Unfortunately, the type of person Paul was established the minute he was born. He was born into a family that believed they were entitled and did no wrong. He was raised to believe he was better than anyone else. When he wanted something, he got it. When he got in trouble, things were covered up and he was bailed out. The type of person Paul was a direct failure of parenting by Alex and Maggie. There was no accountability for his actions. Showed no remorse towards people they hurt. I’m not taking up for Paul but his parents and the Murdaugh name created that monster.
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
12452 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:18 pm to
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He will get life in prison for all of the financial stuff. Believe I heard that just 3 of the counts would give him life….there’s like 80 or 90 something counts.


Yeah, regardless of the result in this trial, he will never be out of prison. I hope the POS rot in prison for everything he has done.
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:26 pm to
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A benefit would also be defanging of a family that has been running Colleton and Hampton counties for more than 100 years. These people leave destruction in their wake. I think that it’s safe to say that there are multiple deaths that they are responsible for since the first Murdaugh.


I heard someone in the media say a couple of weeks ago that people are still scared of the Murdaugh’s. Why? Any power this family had started to crumble in February 2019. The power that was in the law firm and Solicitor office is no more. Alex destroyed all of that.
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
2511 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:30 pm to
Then you have to ask yourself if the Murdaugh’s aren’t anything to fear, why are they still afraid? Was it really the Murdaugh’s, or where they just a cog in something much bigger?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:47 pm to
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Then you have to ask yourself if the Murdaugh’s aren’t anything to fear, why are they still afraid? Was it really the Murdaugh’s, or where they just a cog in something much bigger?


There's a theory that all the lawyers (in his firm and elsewhere) were skimming which is why this went "undetected."

There's also a theory where Alex was running a criminal enterprise with the drugs. 50k per month in drugs is a lot.
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
2511 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:51 pm to
I doubt that goof was running a drug operation. I don’t doubt that he was the funding arm of a drug operation. My wife kept asking me why someone would kill Paul and Maggie but not Alex. Why would you kill the golden goose? That man put $10 million into someone’s hands.
Posted by Mud_Bone
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:54 pm to

Thermostat in courtroom set at 66 degrees..........
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80523 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:02 pm to
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My wife kept asking me why someone would kill Paul and Maggie but not Alex. Why would you kill the golden goose? That man put $10 million into someone’s hands.


I can see this being the case. I could also see Alex being the one that did it I also could see Alex hiring someone to kill them (and himself potentially).

But all those theories lead to the same place. The state hasn't shown direct evidence of any of that. Hasn't put forth a coherent theory of any kind. They have jumped from financial witnesses, to character witnesses, to crime scene analysis, to gun casing primer residue experts. And there is nothing there.

No clothes of Alex's with blood or DNA, no murder weapons, no coherent or consistent motive, no evidence of covering up, hiding, cleaning, of blood, gun powder residue, etc. Even their circumstantial evidence contradicts itself time and again.

It's a shame really.
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 8:10 pm
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:13 pm to
I haven’t seen the early part of the trial so you might be right. But on the Netflix special, they state that there is blood splatter on Alex shirt that proves he was standing next to at least one of them killed. Direct evidence.

They also say that on Paul’s phone, there is video of just before the shooting, and Alex can be heard on the audio. They said it’s not even questionable that he was there when the murder occurred. Just not sure if he did it or had it done.

But that’s the Netflix special. I think it was a journalist that reported that. It might be all bullshite. Did you hear any testimony like that?
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
2511 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:13 pm to
The Fall Guy fell, it doesn’t have to be perfect.
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