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re: Interesting article about the shrinking public schools in Louisiana

Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:45 am to
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
4490 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:45 am to
Nothing will ever change in Louisiana except more data centers
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6727 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:12 am to
Why is EBR not on this list?
Posted by jwalk38
Member since Nov 2021
176 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:50 am to
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you can force people to frick more


Don’t threaten me with a good time.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17851 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:55 am to
My mother (RIP) was a retired educator and taught at all levels, even college. She said if you put all the money the school board wastes in the classroom you would see better results in student grades.
Posted by SoggyCerealClub
Member since Apr 2026
137 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 9:00 am to
I posted a ton of statistics during the St. George debate.

In EBR since 2021:

Administrator pay has rose 17.2% while teacher pay has only rose 5%, much of that from state mandated raises rather than local district-funded increases. Specific roles like directors and coordinators rose 20%.

•The average budget allocation for admins is 2.3 times higher than the allocation for a classroom teacher. Total annual expenditures for admins grew 12.8%.

•The admin to teacher ratio is 1:14 meanwhile the teacher to student ratio is 1:19.

• In the last decade Admin positions have increased 14.7% while teaching positions have decreased 13.3%.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
75169 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 9:37 am to
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you can force people to frick more
Ask China for their strategy from the 1980s and play it backwards.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16606 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 10:01 am to
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The other thing to look at is administrative pay. The salary and benefits of some Superintendents can be a little excessive

It's not one superintendent, it's the TAs you need for the SPED kids wearing earmuffs, the curriculum coordinators for the SPED kids, the multiple counselors in the high school that don't bother to talk about how to apply for college to kids, etc.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10745 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 10:08 am to
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Public schools allow teachers to get on fb and call parents dirtbags.
Every district I taught in would fire someone immediately. In your teaching contract as grounds for immediate termination.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12924 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 11:47 am to
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It's not one superintendent, it's the TAs you need for the SPED kids wearing earmuffs, the curriculum coordinators for the SPED kids, the multiple counselors in the high school that don't bother to talk about how to apply for college to kids, etc.


Not only those positions, but how about the multiple levels of staff at the district level that are on the payroll just distributing or managing federal grants.
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53575 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 11:54 am to
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frustrated bus drivers — who earn less than $25,000 annually


Hey, I have company.

I made less than 21,000 last year.

Print media is tough.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
9587 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 12:27 pm to
The schools suck, yes, but women aren't having as many kids these days is the biggest reason this is happening. The sistas aren't cranking out as many as they used to, which is relevant to Louisiana.


The Shift in Numbers
Demographers often look at the Total Fertility Rate (TFR), which estimates the average number of children a woman will have in her lifetime. To keep a population stable without immigration, a society needs a "replacement rate" of about 2.1.
SCIRP
30 Years Ago (Early 1990s): In 1992, the TFR for Black women in the U.S. was 2.41, well above the replacement level.
Recent Data: By 2022, that number had fallen to 1.64.
SCIRP
For context, the TFR for White women also fell during this same period (from 1.98 to 1.57), meaning the gap between Black and White birth rates has narrowed significantly over the last three decades.
Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
46 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 2:41 pm to
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I posted a ton of statistics during the St. George debate.

In EBR since 2021:

Administrator pay has rose 17.2% while teacher pay has only rose 5%, much of that from state mandated raises rather than local district-funded increases. Specific roles like directors and coordinators rose 20%.

•The average budget allocation for admins is 2.3 times higher than the allocation for a classroom teacher. Total annual expenditures for admins grew 12.8%.

•The admin to teacher ratio is 1:14 meanwhile the teacher to student ratio is 1:19.

• In the last decade Admin positions have increased 14.7% while teaching positions have decreased 13.3%.


With the way it turned out, I started looking into it more. The disturbing thing to me is EBRP School District will have $840 million for the coming year with about 42,000 students. That's $20,000 per student. Central and Zachary do it for $14,000 to $15,000. What's EBRP's excuse?
Posted by Old0331
EBR
Member since Feb 2022
68 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 4:00 pm to
Normally those Federal (and other) grants include money to provide for the salary of the employee administering and documenting that grant.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
23255 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:10 pm to
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In general private school enrollment has been in decline for years.


Any link for that data?

It may be anecdotal, but private schools in Houston have been growing for over a decade, both in enrollment and in the number of campuses. Most have waitlists now.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41230 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:17 pm to
One of the main reason for employee growth is state and federal mandates.

Data collection and 504 plans drive a lot of this.

The reporting these districts have to do to satisfy stage and the feds has exploded in recent memory

So have the number of kids needing special ed accommodations and the work that needs to be done for those accommodations.

A lesser issue but still an issue is the increase in total schools mainly due to charters. We have more schools but fewer kids per classroom teacher as well as more admins, staff, etc - things not directly tied to number of students in a school
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12537 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:16 pm to
What were the student:teacher ratios before and what are they now? These numbers don't tell us a whole lot in a vacuum.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12924 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 7:49 am to
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Normally those Federal (and other) grants include money to provide for the salary of the employee administering and documenting that grant.


So the federal government hands out a minimum of 80-100k for a position and the rest goes to individuals needing the assistance.

Sounds more like a jobs program than actual help.

So if the Feds gave a district 100k, 80k just to employ someone and 20k in actual assistance distributed.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37250 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 7:57 am to
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My mother (RIP) was a retired educator and taught at all levels, even college. She said if you put all the money the school board wastes in the classroom you would see better results in student grades.

Throwing more money at public school classrooms is like throwing money into a burn barrel.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25929 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:25 am to
Baws need to vote for more property tax increases for the schools since they have less kids
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150704 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:33 am to
Teachers want a raise? How about pushing their administration to ‘right-size’ the employee numbers and if would free up a bunch of labor dollars that could go towards the teachers that are worth a shite and deserve a raise.
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