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re: Insomnia and Treatment Options
Posted on 9/11/26 at 8:37 am to Giantkiller
Posted on 9/11/26 at 8:37 am to Giantkiller
Get a sleep study done. You can have sleep apnea and not snore. Set your alarm one morning to only get 2-3 hours sleep, power through the day and don't go to bed until 11:30 or so the next night. Sometimes the more severe sleep deprivation will shake up your circadian rhythm. Make sure you're off of work and don't do anything that could be dangerous(driving, operating heavy machinery, climbing trees, etc). Try to abstain from electronics all afternoon and right after you wake up as well.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 8:41 am to mmonro3
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Weed
No doubt helps you fall asleep but that's not op's problem. It also suppresses REM sleep so not a great idea for his situation
Posted on 9/11/26 at 8:49 am to theunknownknight
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Before Bed: take magnesium Avoid screens for a bit Get a vibrating plate and stand on that for 15 minutes before bed take a shower stretch Get in bed You're welcome
Routines like this are the key. If you get your brain trained to a routine, it’ll think “ok, steps one through five are done, now step six is sleep” and shut down appropriately.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 9:01 am to Giantkiller
I don't sleep well either, but have had success with non prescriptions use of Valerian Root. A combination of it, Melatonin and Magnesium seem to work pretty well. I have also taken Ambient, which is what I take currently.
The trick with any of them is, when I get sleepy after taking them, is to stop reading, scrolling or whatever I am doing, and get comfortable with a really dark room and let them work.
The trick with any of them is, when I get sleepy after taking them, is to stop reading, scrolling or whatever I am doing, and get comfortable with a really dark room and let them work.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 9:09 am to Giantkiller
Did you change your diet 6 weeks ago to keto/low carb or intermittent fasting? If so, your glucose level might dip too low at night causing you to wake up around 2-3:00 am. Try eating a small meal before bed (even just a piece of toast with peanut butter on it) to see if that helps.
Regardless of whether that works or not, get some morning sunlight (no sunglasses) soon after you wake up. Sunlight through a closed window doesn’t count either - go outside for a few minutes or crack the car window on your morning commute. Morning sunlight can help reset your circadian rhythm.
Regardless of whether that works or not, get some morning sunlight (no sunglasses) soon after you wake up. Sunlight through a closed window doesn’t count either - go outside for a few minutes or crack the car window on your morning commute. Morning sunlight can help reset your circadian rhythm.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 9:09 am to 2_4_LSU
This may sound backwards but you may actually need less sleep. For example, if your normal sleep routine is 9:00 PM to 5:00 AM try going to bed around 10:00 or 11:00 but still get up at 5:00 AM. Try this for a week or two and if it works slowly start backing down sleep time in 15 minute increments for a week at a time until you are sleeping for your full 9:00-5:00 routine. I dealt with this in the past and I was told this would reset my circadian rhythms. I was skeptical at first because it sounded crazy that less sleep would be a good thing but it worked for me.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:22 am to Giantkiller
Go to your primary doctor and ask them to prescribe a sleep study for you. Some sleep studies are done in a facility and some are done at your house where you hook yourself up to a machine. That will tell you how bad your sleep apnea is and what options are available to you.
If it’s bad enough, most insurance plans will cover the cost of an implantable Inspire device.
Don’t put this off. Sleep apnea can cause damage to your overall health, especially your heart.
If it’s bad enough, most insurance plans will cover the cost of an implantable Inspire device.
Don’t put this off. Sleep apnea can cause damage to your overall health, especially your heart.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:24 am to Giantkiller
Look at my history. I’ve posted a Vandy sleep doctor’s protocol. It’s the gold standard for insomnia.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:29 am to tankyank13
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Trazodone has helped me get back on track.
THIS!!!!
I had terrible insomnia for months and tried every homeopathic (for you baws in New Iberia, that doesn't mean gay) remedy and nothing worked, saw my PCP who gave me a Rx for Trazadone. It changed my life.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 12:52 pm to Giantkiller
Do you share a bed with anyone?
I thought I had really bad insomnia for the past 5 years. I went alone to visit my parents this summer and slept like a baby.
My husband tosses and turns, kicks, and violently snatches covers all night long. In my youth I’d sleep right through it. Now being slightly awoken will start my brain (and bladder) going.
Just something to consider. As you age you do lose the ability to get restful sleep. It’s why grandpa could fall asleep in a dining room chair in the middle of the day.
I thought I had really bad insomnia for the past 5 years. I went alone to visit my parents this summer and slept like a baby.
My husband tosses and turns, kicks, and violently snatches covers all night long. In my youth I’d sleep right through it. Now being slightly awoken will start my brain (and bladder) going.
Just something to consider. As you age you do lose the ability to get restful sleep. It’s why grandpa could fall asleep in a dining room chair in the middle of the day.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 1:46 pm to Giantkiller
Ambien
Posted on 9/11/26 at 1:59 pm to Giantkiller
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I don’t really snore so sleep apnea isn’t the culprit.
… it’s not really going to sleep that’s the problem. It’s staying asleep.
I thought I didn’t snore as well until a sleep study showed I snored 35% of the time.
Back at the time my issue was having hypopneas (shallow breathing not complete stops) along with leg movements.
This post was edited on 9/11/26 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:10 pm to Giantkiller
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Have any of you tried CBT-I? Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia?
It's pretty effective for insomnia (you do this with a therapist for about 6-8 sessions). It gets into behaviors, retraining your body for normal sleep mechanisms, deep breathing/mindfulness practices for relaxation, etc.
Curious though, what time are you working out? Are you drinking any caffeine after noon? Any new stressors that have been introduced since you started having trouble with sleep?
That said, you want to rule out any physiological issues before you dip into that. Second others here saying to get a sleep study to rule out sleep apnea.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:24 pm to Giantkiller
Are you getting any exercise?
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:16 pm to i am dan
GHB or GBL (gamma butelyactone) if you can find it. Magic
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:41 pm to Giantkiller
Tito's and tonic with a twist of Xanax is my treatment of choice
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:50 pm to Giantkiller
cbt therapy is rough and not for the weak
only works for 10-20% who do it
only works for 10-20% who do it
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:58 pm to Giantkiller
Wait till you have to piss every other hour as it's a known fact the older you get the more you piss while you are "sleeping" 
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