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re: Indiana parents warn nation after child is removed from home for improper pronoun usage

Posted on 2/20/24 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
1723 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 10:13 pm to
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Maybe I'm wrong, but is there examples in history of such a small portion of a population caused a collapse in society?



That is an interesting question.

How many people had even heard of Barack Obama in 2007? Who had ever heard of Dan Quayle or Michael Dukakis before 1988?

Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
1986 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 10:18 pm to
Ah ok! I see what you were referring to. Yeah I looked up that clinic myself while arguing with someone that said there was no trans people before 1990. Yeah that place was crazy.

But I wouldn't say it was what led to Nazi Germany (and certainly you aren't making that point either)
Posted by sumtimeitbeslikedat
Vidalia, La
Member since Nov 2013
4439 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 10:22 pm to
Never, never, NEVER vote for ANYONE with a “D” beside their name.

NEVER.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
55279 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 10:24 pm to
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Indiana parents


What a relief to see a state not named Ohio or Florida!

Way to go Hoosiers.
Posted by killedbyindians
Earth
Member since Jun 2022
1198 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 10:49 pm to
I wouldn’t say it created the nazi movement but it could be argued that the chaos of the collapse of Weimar cleared a path allowing the nazi rise to power. Poor economics, crushing national debt, hyperinflation, along with all the cultural stuff i.e. trans, pedo, etc. were all used as propaganda for nazis. Not saying we’re there yet or that history is repeating itself but sometimes it seems like it’s starting to rhyme. While I don’t understand any of this woke shite these days and I would love for things to change I’m afraid the more we ignore or accept these things the pendulum gains momentum and swings further until it doesn’t and then it swings back with a vengeance and what that could clear a path for is concerning.
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
1656 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:43 am to
Even that figure is greatly exaggerated. There is no way one in a hundred people are trans.

That said, they are obnoxious, and the damage their movement is doing to children, as facilitated by the press, school, and psych industries, is unbelievable. I simply can't believe adults can be this selfish and abusive.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10622 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:45 am to
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Even that figure is greatly exaggerated. There is no way one in a hundred people are trans.


That 1% figure very well may be inflated, but then you have to add in all of the woke people that are willing to line up in the streets in support of them, and the ones that are willing to promote to positions of power even if they aren't qualified, or plaster them all over beer cans and TV ads. That's where the numbers are seemingly larger, and where it influences kids who are going through typical growing pains or actual mental illness to feel welcomed by these people.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57526 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:56 am to
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Hard to overstate how scary this is. We have to be getting close to a tipping point with this stuff.


How is this not a tipping point?

People keep saying what you said, but nothing ever happens.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51960 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:02 am to
Withholding ice cream and the latest toy for not eating their broccoli or doing their chores can also be distressing to a child. We gonna pull kids from homes for that too?
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
1986 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:23 am to
Ok so yes, I will certainly agree with you on that point. Because I think you are correct on the pendulum swinging in our society. I would argue Trump getting elected is proof of that. People were so sick of the Democrats talking down to them that a man with no political background got elected President. Jan 6th could be another example.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
14178 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:06 am to
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Eh, 1.03% of the US identifies as trans. Unless there is some massive jumps in the next few years, I don't see them as bringing down the US. They are a very small minority that politicians can use as a boogie man to blame your problems on.


With the way the left is pushing it onto children, that number will skyrocket.

Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13345 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:07 am to
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Seems the child was removed due to abuse/eating disorder more than the trans thing, but that would be harder to claim victimhood over.
pertinent question was the eating disorder, if true and accurate, a byproduct of the trans claim/process?

And to be clear, the state is claiming they removed the child due to the parents inability to "effectively treat the eating disorder". So if that is indeed the wording, which I'm not sure it is:

- the state isn't claiming the parents caused the disorder, so no undue harm, negligence, or battery
- the state isn't claiming they did not attempt to have it treated, so no negligence

Hence, the parents should claim those pushing the trans lifestyle on juveniles caused the harm (the disorder) AND the harm was so extensive it could not be treated by experts.

Also curious if doctors, of various types, refused treatment because it went against "gender affirming care" removing any chance of effectively treating the disorder.

ETA: to me, it is also telling they did not cite the specific disorder in the sate's press release. Only the generic "eating disorder".
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 8:10 am
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
14178 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:49 am to
It’s anorexia. Mentioned a couple of times in different things posted in this thread.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29497 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:51 am to
Yeah, I’d be going to jail before child services came to my home to take my kid because I refused to call him a girl. And I’ll bet the school was complicit in advancing this.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111307 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:29 am to
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I wouldn't acknowledge her presence, thus I'm not saying "she" or "they", not cowering or fighting. I'd remove myself from the situation.

We can't come out and speak against that crap or we have negative life consequences, but we can shun the shite out of those people quietly.
If you have to wok directly with that person, there isn't a whole lot you can do to avoid those negative life consequenes you mentioned.

You can't just ignore someone's existence if your role dictates you have to work directly with that person at times and assume everything will be fine. That's the type of person that will go to HR relentless to call out how they needed a discussion with you for work purposes and you refused. It wouldn't end well for you unfortunately.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111307 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:45 am to
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There are few things in life I am willing to go down shooting for, but ripping my kids away from me is one of them.

I get the sentiment, I truly do. But it's such a lose-lose situation.

That just makes things worse and takes all hope away for your child. Doing that is not what is best for your child unfortunately.

It's not like you'd start shooting and they'd back down and you'd get to keep your kid. You'd either be dead or in jail and now your child has no one to advocate for them and are truly fricked without you there to fight for them.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28923 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:47 am to
Reading the "Are Kids Worth It" thread and now this one.

Feelings all over the place.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111307 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:02 am to
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How is this not a tipping point?

People keep saying what you said, but nothing ever happens.
Exactly

I know people just think I'm being a jerk when I say this, but it's 100% true...just complaining about it on social media and talking about a tipping point does not make it a tipping point.

If you truly think we're close to that tipping point, what are you specifically doing or going to do to either ensure we hit that point or once we hit that point? If your answer is nothing different and you'll continue to just talk about tit on a message board, then we're not close to that tipping point.

Up to now, there's just a lot of angry people talking about it, but from a scale of the masses, no one is angry enough to really do something about it.
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