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re: Illinois police claim if marijuana is legalized, they'll have to kill their police dogs

Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:25 pm to
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:25 pm to
I can train my dog to do and not do stuff he's been doing his entire life. Only takes a few minutes. He's 10.

Are they saying their dogs are too stupid to learn things? I'd like to hear from the actual K-9 trainers about it, instead of some director.

I find this odd, because the training academy stands to make tons of money on retraining
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12803 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:27 pm to
This clearly isn’t as bad as some of the issues out there but it comes from the same root issue: us vs them and we will win. It’s in a lot of police forces and in this case it’s simply manipulative but often it’s damgerous
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135035 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:28 pm to
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We need to train dogs to sniff out politicians.



Pretty sure they already know how to locate piles of shite
Posted by gingerkittie
Member since Aug 2013
2675 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

So let me see if I understand this correctly...

Cops train a bunch of dogs to basically be machines with one purpose, and are going to guilt trip everyone else once they no longer have any use for them?

This guy can go to hell.


Idiotic, isn't it? They are basically saying " You need to keep letting us keep imprisoning people for something that is legal in many places OR we are gonna euthanize these dogs?

Huh? WTF?

The dogs can still be used in prisons pr border crossings, airports, etc.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38577 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

This is 100% fake news and it is a shame that our culture and climate are accepting such ridiculous stories as credible.

Have a link to discredit it?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38577 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

Huh? WTF?

The dogs can still be used in prisons pr border crossings, airports, etc.

Hell, the dogs can still be used for weed until the black market subsides.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42760 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:38 pm to
Well that seals it for me. We must keep it illegal so we can spend even more tax dollars in law enforcement.



Think of the puppies!!!!!!!!!
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82755 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:38 pm to
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They can't put them up for adoption like retired greyhounds?

shite no they can't lol...they're trained lethal weapons
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122527 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:42 pm to
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I call bs on this one. I would find it hard to believe that they kill all their dogs after they retire them.


If all drugs were made legal, I would be curious to know how many law enforcement jobs would be lost. In theory, if all drugs become legal there would be little to no illegal drug activity. No need for drug dealers, etc. I honestly believe that plays a factor in why some people are against legalizing marijuana.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
7399 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:48 pm to
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Have a link to discredit it?


I do not.
How do you prove a negative?
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21527 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:53 pm to
I found a cure for blindness but didn't publish it.

Just couldn't stomach the thought of all the seeing eye dogs that would be put down. Not to mention the cane and dark-glasses makers who would be laid off.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38577 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:54 pm to
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I do not.
How do you prove a negative?

You can show that the article contains misinformation. You called it fake news, shouldn't be hard to tell us why you say that.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 8:01 pm to
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Are they saying their dogs are too stupid to learn things?


Or...

Are they saying the cops are too stupid to learn things?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45424 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

This is 100% fake news and it is a shame that our culture and climate are accepting such ridiculous stories as credible.

Have a link to discredit it?


Yes, the one in the OP-

this is what the police officer (Petrilli)said

quote:

"At this point, they're trained on five different odors," explained the Normal Police Department's assistant police chief, Steve Petrilli, a former K-9 handler.

"Once they're programed with that, you can't just deprogram them."

Petrilli likewise said the dogs would likely continue to live with their handlers in retirement, and in states where the drug has already been legalized, some K-9s have simply been retrained to ignore the (much more frequent) whiffs of pot.


this is what the director of the K-9 Training Academy said

quote:

Replacing the dogs would cost millions, and Chad Larner, the director of Maron County's K-9 Training Academy, said "retraining" the dogs would be "extreme abuse."


Where did the idea that they would have to kill dogs?

quote:

Marijuana advocates are skeptical about the threat. "The idea that legalizing for adults to have an ounce on them will equal ... all these dogs being euthanized, that seems kind of ridiculous and hyperbolic," the executive director of the advocacy group NORML, Dan Linn, told The Pantagraph




Just to be sure that the police officer said
quote:

Both Mendiola and Petrilli said retired K-9s in Bloomington and Normal typically continue to live with their handlers, and dismissed the idea that any would be euthanized because of retirement.


Also editor's notes
quote:

Editor's note: This article originally overstated the number of dogs that might be euthanized. It has subsequently been clarified.




Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50845 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 8:10 pm to
gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 8:10 pm to
Hey, nobody knows how to measure impairment when driving under the influence of marijuana!

Yippee! The drunks on the road weren't enough.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
7399 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

northshorebamaman



Here is a story from Radley Balko (I respect the hell outta this guy...wrote Militarization of the Police).

LINK

It links another story where a trainer (Chad Larner) gave this red herring argument about maybe having to euthanize some or most dogs that are trained (by him $$$$) to sniff pot. It is not a direct quote.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38577 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 8:15 pm to
I read the original article that was linked in the page the OP posted and saw it wasn't a direct quote. It definitely detracts from the strength of the claim, but, by itself, is not evidence that it was fabricated out of whole cloth.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19459 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 8:41 pm to
That’s so pathetic. I’ll adopt one.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 9:05 pm to
They’ve had a lot of practice killing dogs so this shouldn’t bother them too much
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