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re: If you're afraid for your life at a restaurant, do you stop to pay the tab?
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:41 am to Hester Carries
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:41 am to Hester Carries
I'm not changing the definition of stealing.
Here it is, in fact, according to Merriam Webster:
Here it is, in fact, according to Merriam Webster:
quote:
steal
verb \'stel\
Simple Definition of steal
Popularity: Top 30% of words
: to take (something that does not belong to you) in a way that is wrong or illegal
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Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:41 am to Rex
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His point is that it's not stealing if you're genuinely concerned about your safety.
Does he run away every time a cop walks into such an establishment?
And if the person carrying isn't in uniform, why would that automatically mean he isn't a cop? They sometimes go without uniforms but with their sidearms.
And even if said cop is in uniform, does that mean he is any less dangerous (since BLM)?
His point is not really a very good one b/c there is no a priori reason to be concerned for his personal safety.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:42 am to Rex
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What's your own reason for openly carrying a weapon?
I conceal carry probably 99% of the time. One recent exception though was about a month ago when I, my wife, and our kids went to Oxford, AL to meet a guy about buying a truck. My CCP had just expired and I'd not had time to renew it. I didn't want to go meet this stranger unarmed so I open carried my pistol in my belt holster. We met the guy, I'm sure he saw the pistol on my side and he never said a word about it. We even went out on a pretty long test drive. When we were done my family wanted to go by Starbucks and get coffee & hot chocolates. The drive through was wrapped around the building so we went inside. I walked right in, placed my order, got my stuff and we left. I did notice a few people eyeing me but nothing was said nor did anyone leave in a panic. Amazingly, by some miracle my pistol did not leap from my holster on it's own and start blasting away at everyone in the place.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:42 am to Rex
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If the building were on fire do you have a moral obligation to stop and pay the tab? Nope.
the building on fire puts someone in eminent danger
does someone simply possessing a gun put everyone else in eminent danger?
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:42 am to Rex
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Never... but if I saw that I'd leave immediately.
OK, so what else that you have never seen do you fear?
Nessie? Big Foot?
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:43 am to CidCock
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I have an irrational fear of Muslims, if I see one come in a restaurant, I'm walking. Lives could quite literally be on the line.
I feel the same when I see a white male walk in a movie theater.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:43 am to Rex
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Rex
You are so driven by fear.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:44 am to jlu03
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I feel the same when I see a white male walk in a movie theater.
If I'm paying $20 for a movie and a coke, I'm watching the whole damn thing. I don't care if they are shooting in there.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:45 am to Rex
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His point is that it's not stealing if you're genuinely concerned about your safety. I agree with him.
Exactly. It's faux outrage unless you are so scared for your life that you literally turn and run. Obviously, most of this is faux outrage.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:45 am to Rex
Oh puppy responded to me! Okay. I'll ask my other question again dog boy. If laquan comes and sits his good toof and sagging pants self next to me, can I use your illogical fear tactic and walk out without paying? Like I said, you're way more likely to become a victim of a crime due to laquan than Billy Bob with with open carry 1911
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:46 am to Brightside Bengal
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I've never seen someone walk into a restaurant with a rifle, but I'd leave immediately also if I saw it.
I see cops with guns all the time in restaurants.
It never concerns me.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:47 am to PokerThere
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can I use your illogical fear tactic and walk out without paying?
I have no illogical tactic for you to use, so your question was a waste of typing.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:48 am to Rex
Just address the blacks walking out if a cop walks in comparison.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:48 am to Rex
See, more shite spewing out of your mouth... Want me to take you for a walk around the block boy? Come on, I'll get your leash.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:48 am to Rex
Rex, at what point is fear no longer a legitimate justification to not pay for you?
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:49 am to Rex
This guy's argument starts off with this gem:
This is a great example of the "excluded middle" fallacy. He's conveniently excluded the possibility that the person in question has no intention of harming anyone and is in fact perfectly sane. Maybe he knows the owner and just wants to show him his latest purchase?
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If you’re enjoying a nice meal at a restaurant with your family and you see a man carrying an assault rifle walk in, it could be one of two things: either he’s a crazy person intent on killing someone or he’s a crazy person intent on showing his gun off in public and daring someone to ask him to leave it at home.
This is a great example of the "excluded middle" fallacy. He's conveniently excluded the possibility that the person in question has no intention of harming anyone and is in fact perfectly sane. Maybe he knows the owner and just wants to show him his latest purchase?
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:50 am to Rex
so the response to legal, but repugnant behavior is illegal and repugnant behavior in response?
doesn't seem too moral or logical
doesn't seem too moral or logical
This post was edited on 1/5/16 at 9:51 am
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:51 am to Rex
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Not necessarily. If the building were on fire do you have a moral obligation to stop and pay the tab? Nope.
same principle applies if someone starts shooting. feel free to leave immediately. you can't slip out the door without paying just because you spot someone with a cigarette lighter or become aware that the kitchen has sources of high heat.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:51 am to Rex
He's not original (like most gun-control advocates, you guys aren't very smart) and he'll get busted for theft. Maybe make skipping out on the tab a felony and the dimwitted professor will never have to worry about owning a gun the rest of his life.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:53 am to terd ferguson
This whole argument overlooks the fact that private businesses can prohibit the carrying--open or otherwise--of weapons on their property.
But hey, don't let that ruin the narrative.
But hey, don't let that ruin the narrative.
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